Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymond E. Shaw School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 07:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raymond E. Shaw Elementary School

Non notable elementary school (it's generally accepted that only high schools are automatically notable; other schools would have to be notable for another reason than just being a school to have articles). Rory096 05:17, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - no sign of notability. --Ajdz 05:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Non notable. Darquis 08:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Kimchi.sg 08:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Good article on this school. -- JJay 11:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Comment, I live about 6 houses away from this school. I can't think of anything special about it, but this is more information than I knew about it, and I grew up here. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 13:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• All the more reason to keep the article since it is highly informative, even for locals such as yourself. -- JJay 14:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. It may be a good article on the school, but it's still not notable. No claim to notability apart from someone getting into a state spelling bee. ConDem^Talk 13:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per general precedent for schools. The nominator's statement is clearly false. The clear precedent for a year is to keep *all* verifiable real K-12 schools, including elementaries. There are few exceptions in the last year. See 2006 AFD results and 2005 AFD results. Typically, the deletes are for copyvios or non-verifiability (such as with some non-accredited schools); *not* "notability", even for elementaries. Deletion of schools is definately not "generally accepted".--Rob 15:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Is there any specific wiki policy or project that says that schools themselves are automatically notable? I cannot dispute this is a well written article, but I fail to see any notability, outside "it's a school" (outside the accomplishments of one student, not nearly enough to establish the school in that manner either). I have difficulty seeing the need to have articles on non-notable subjects, particularly ones that will be of such a large volume (as there are thousands of schools in the United States alone). Darquis 21:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Why does a school need more of an explanation than a tiny township, or anything else, that is accepted as a group. The school is notable, but for similiar reasons, as any other school is. --Rob 22:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• I didn't say any of those other things doesn't need an explanation on their notability either. Just because other articles on Wikipedia do it doesn't mean this one can. I don't see "it's a school" addressing any concerns of notability. Darquis 23:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

• Well, after you try and delete a municipality (which you *never* will), we can discuss this further. --Rob 00:42, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• Other arguments not meeting standards isn't an argument for this to not meet standards. Darquis 01:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Plenty of information on the school, and as per above re: notability. Karlusss 17:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• keep please nomination is false and this is a important school Yuckfoo 17:08, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 19:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, as per precedent for schools. Also, the article is very good and verifiable. Carioca 21:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as notable as the average elementary school (i.e., nn). Carlossuarez46 22:24, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per the existing precedent to keep schools and the above regarding notability. Yamaguchi先生 18:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Nothing wrong with having this. Sumahoy 23:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep if a town in Oregon with a total population of 3 gets an article and is notable.... this certainly is.  ALKIVAR™ 02:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Another round of this long school debate. (Cheer up, it was worse before). Although an article on every school would just about double the number of articles we have, and creating such articles is not a priority for me, the precedent on elementary schools is to keep them if the article is reasonable, with the option of merging if it's a stub. Deleted school articles are usually due to utter lack of content (e.g. "A very nice school"), being an attack page, or unverifiable. For some reason, even articles which consist of nothing more than the address and telephone number are being kept. With that clear precedent in mind here, I see no reason to be inconsistent with this one. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Silensor 17:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.