Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raquel Evita Saraswati

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The result of the nomination was delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raquel Evita Saraswati

Notability in question. --NMChico24 08:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. 17 unique Google hits, Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Userfy and delete per nom. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 12:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The reviews listed under "References" seem to indicate notability. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 16:15, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • What reviews? When I click the "review" link in this article (which points to a pdf file), I get "page cannot be displayed." --NMChico24 19:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Delete - every woman on this list, "Sixteen Women who Shame Islam", deserves her own article (and at least one other already has one). These women are leading Islamic feminists and risk their lives more so than any early American feminist ever has. Rklawton 16:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • On the other hand, if it's not on video, it didn't happen. Uh. No verifiability, no article. My bad. Rklawton 00:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
  • In that case, keep. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 17:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Where is the list? I searched for it, and I was unable to find it. There are a few random ones that come up in blogs, but I didn't see this person's name. Also, the sites listed as external links here really have nothing to do with her activism as a persecuted muslim. They verify her as a lesbian and a poet, and her involvement with CNW, but nothing about death threats or anything that would verify those claims. --NMChico24 18:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I suspect it may be helpful to search in Arabic since that's the source language. At any rate, the cross-language, cross-cultural aspect will make this biography more difficult to evaluate. Any Arabic readers out there care to lend a hand? Rklawton 19:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Since I was unable to find this list either (even when searching in Arabic), and it's a clear vanity article, I have changed my argument back to userfy and delete. The notability mentioned here is unverifiable. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 00:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete unless this list can be sourced and shown to be notable - I can't find evidence of it. It's a vanity article which reads like promotion of a colourful but non-notable person. NMChico24 makes good points. Dlyons493 Talk 22:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

--the list was published on shiachat.com and has been brought down because of intervention by the authorities. I have heard of it though. --this was an issue in boston, and death threats weren't publicized but sent directly to the women on the list. they actually aren't permitted by authorities to publish them; but the list definitely existed and she was on it.

• Comment then it's unverifiable. Even if it were still on shiachat.com that would be unofficial and in all probability non-notable. Dlyons493 Talk 20:48, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Please do not interfere with the AfD process by changing other editors contributions. Dlyons493 Talk 04:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.