Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel Sterling

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-12-28 15:06Z

[edit] Rachel Sterling

Rachel Sterling (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

I tried editing this entry myself to make it worth a Wiki entry, but I have to admit it fails WP:BIO and WP:NOTE. Especially now that anon user 71.138.88.132 has removed all references to Angel Veil, the name under which Rachel Sterling strips and takes nude photos for Penthouse, etc.[1] As this is the only time 71.138.88.132 has ever edited a WIkipedia entry, I suspect 71.138.88.132 is Rachel Sterling herself, so possbily add WP:VANITY to the mix too.

So what we're left with is a smokin' hot gal who dances behind celebrities in music videos and does walk-on parts in movies (her role in Wedding Crashers, for instance, was as one of the girls bedded in the montage scene [2]). Which doesn't really warrant an entry in an encyclopedia. TruthGal 16:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - non notable per WP:BIO. She's made some appearances in tv series and films, but nothing that makes her a "notable" actor. She might be keepable under WP:PORNBIO but if that information doesn't get included in the article then it should be deleted. Jayden54 16:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per Jayden54. Tonywalton  | Talk 17:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fails both WP:BIO and it appears that she would fail WP:PORNBIO if the miminal stuff there would be included. SkierRMH 18:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Posing for magazines, extra roles in movies, and starring in a Z-tier filler show does not a celebrity make. Nate 03:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, non notable --Mhking 04:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Would it be possible to add this woman's 'band' (The Sugar Blush Beauties) article to the AfD also? It also doesn't have enough notability. Nate 04:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Per this the band appears to meet WP:BAND as "It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.", although the author needs to cite references to show those "notable mentions" aren't just self-promotion. Tonywalton  | Talk 12:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I checked that link. The only checkable references are the subject's own webpages. The other cited references include a magazine called Calabasas (which links to The City Of Calabasas), a magazine called OYE (which links to nothing), a magazine called Peace (no link), a magazine called Infamous (which links to a definition of the word) and Playboy. If 4 out of the 5 magazines a band is mentioned in are not notable enough to have Wikipedia entries, it would come to follow that such a band is not notable. I'm going to add the band to AfD too.TruthGal 15:16, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Calabasas Magazine exists, and is confined to the LA area (I only know of it because of a Lauren Graham piece from a few months ago). Most likely though it was probably a passing mention, as I can't find anything within their online archive about this band. The others I have never heard of and sound like they're very small publications with limited or free distribution. Nate 21:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
        • Oh, I'm not questioning whether the magazines are legit - I'm just saying that 4 out of 5 of them aren't noatble enough to have Wikipedia pages. And therefore, if a publication that's not notable does an article about a person, one can't then use the article in the non-notable publication to make the case for the person's notability. Or if you prefer - If someone writes about a tree falling in Calabasas Magazine... ;) TruthGal 23:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I've improved the article slightly, and I think she meets the qualification for WP:BIO of having had "Multiple features in popular culture publications". In any event, I would appreciate it if an admin would check the article again before taking a decision about deleting it. --Metropolitan90 07:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, making the article longer hasn't gotten the subject to clear the WP:NOTE bar. You've done an excellent job writing an interesting narrative - though now it seems less like an encyclopedia entry and more like an E! True Hollywood Story about a stripper-turned-extra. TruthGal 18:50, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

• I'm changing my recommendation to neutral due to the fact that the quality of this article is fluctuating. (Most of the "narrative" was written by an anonymous editor, not by me personally.) --Metropolitan90 01:06, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.