Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Preston Street (Ottawa)

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The result of the debate was move to Little Italy, Ottawa which I will do now. Feel free to expand from there as you see fit. · Katefan0^(scribble) 18:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Preston Street (Ottawa)

nn road Delete --Aranda56 23:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC) Move to Little Italy, Ottawa --Aranda56 22:37, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

• keep of course. This is one of Ottawa's more notable streets, what being the heart of Little Italy and all. It even has an italian alternate name! -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Notable? What is the difference between this road and the road in front of my apartment? Are the stores in Little Italy notable because they are in Little Italy? Wouldn't an article on 'Little Italy' include everything you can say about 'Preston Street' (or rather, what info is relevant to Preston Street and not to Little Italy)? --maclean25 06:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as per Earl Andrew. -- Spinboy 00:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Little Italy, Ottawa in parallel with the rest of the Little Italies, and rewrite to cover the area instead of one street. — mendel ☎ 00:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Article claims this is an important street but doesn't say why at that point. Only claim to specific importance is "at the heart of Little Italy", so merge to the not-yet-created article proposed by Mendel, per WP precedent. "Having an [I]talian alternate name" isn't notable by Wtaly, Ottawa]], as above. The area is more notable than the road. - Hahnchen 02:00, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Earl Andrew. - SimonP 02:18, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, as per Earl Andrew and expand. – AxSkov (☏) 05:53, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Little Italy, Ottawa. Stub on the street, nothing on the area? It would make sense to me in terms of the encyclopedia being useful to others now (as opposed to theoretically useful at some point in the future) to have a combined article on the street and the area, since so littleP standards, as far as I can tell. Barno 00:57, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Move to Little Italy, Ottawa. Ok, this article is just confusing. Is it describing a road or a place? The stub, the ext.link, and the last sentence all say it is a place. But the category and the first two sentences say it is a street. Near as I can tell from my three minustes of research, this is simply a street. If it is really just a street that goes through Little Italy then why is it not described in an Ottawa Little Italy article? I will change my vote if someone can explain the significance of the street (ie. historic or cultural) so that it could justify its own article without repeating everything that could go into a more comprehensive Little Italy article. --maclean25 00:59, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
  • It's a street which informally lends its name to the wider neighbourhood centred on it. Which, to me, suggests that the neighbourhood should have an article (but under its more proper name); the street itself shouldn't. Bearcat 01:17, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
    • This street is one of Ottawa's more famous streets. There is no reason to delete it. -- Earl Andrew - talk 01:58, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
      • Famous? A street's fame is not defined by being a major street within the city; it's defined by being a street that a person who's never been to the city is still likely to have heard of. Sparks, Sussex and Bank are famous Ottawa streets; there's very little evidence that Preston meets the same criteria. Bearcat 16:38, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move - [[Little I is currently available. If these get sufficiently large then they can be separated later. Average Earthman 08:13, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move per Mendel. -- Last Malthusian 11:57, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• If it's relevant because it goes through Little Italy, Ottawa, then there should really be an article at Little Italy, Ottawa before this article. And if the street is only notable because it goes through Little Italy, Ottawa, then it should be moved to Little Italy, Ottawa. One more time - Little Italy, Ottawa. Proto t c 12:40, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. As an ex-Ottawan, my memory is that the area was more commonly known as "Preston Street", and only rarely as "Little Italy". Perhaps current Ottawans could provide commentary on that. If that is still the case, it makes more sense for the article to be called what Ottawans call the area, rather than imposing a name that other cities use. Ground Zero | t 13:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Well, I'm a recent Ottawan, I've only been here for five years, and to me, Little Italy's business district is Preston Street, like the Glebe's is Bank and Westboro's is Richmond, but Preston St isn't equivalent to Little Italy. Take St Anthony's, for instance, on Gladstone -- it's part of Little Italy, sure, but part of Preston Street? Even the Preston St. Business Improvement Asssociation calls the area Little Italy. There's so much more to be said about the area than the street anyhow, from the first Italian immigration to Ottawa until the present. You go to a restaurant on Preston, but you live in Little Italy. (The city seems to call the BIA "Preston Street" and the neighbourhood either "Corso Italia" or "Little Italy".) Of course, Little Italy, Ottawa would contain a substantial section on Preston Street, so Preston Street could redirect there. — mendel ☎ 15:07, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

• Move to become a subsection of Little Italy, Ottawa Pete.Hurd 17:38, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Little Italy, Ottawa. The fact that Preston Street is sometimes, or even frequently, used synonymously to Little Italy should be mentioned in the Little Italy article. There is plenty of information to add to that article related to Preston Street, as a simple google search can attest: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. (BTW: when school articles are put on AfD, those that vote keep often expand the article to demonstrate its significance, notability etc. during the AfD process. I would expect the same level of devotion for road articles; its also a good way to sway a voter towards keeping an article.) I've done some of the nominal work of finding info to add. I'll leave it to others to actually expand the article. Mindmatrix 19:30, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move and expand to Little Italy, Ottawa. ♥purplefeltangel ^(talk) ♥ ^{(Contributions)} 20:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• How about taking all the Ottawa road articles and put them in Notable roads in Ottawa. Doesint that sound much better?72.49.19.124 22:31, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Little Italy, Ottawa as per above. Caerwine 10:14, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep roadcruft. --SPUI (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and Move to Little Italy, Ottawa. Shauri 19:47, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and move as above comment. ··gracefool |☺ 18:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

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