Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Poudre High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 10:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poudre High School

Lack of notability; vanity article Orange Mike 23:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I would assume that you promote the deletion of every other page that is a page about any specific school? As for lack of notability, it would seem to me that they list a lot of note worth things on the page. I would propose clean up rather than deletion. What makes the page for UMW so mush better than this? If pages can be created for any/all universities without reprocutions like this, why can't this stay? DemonOWA 00:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

UMW? I don't see what the United Mine Workers has to do with mush, or with any of this. If the school has particular notability on a national level for scholastic achievement, or a history of notable alumni, or high standards, then it would be appropriate; but most elementary and secondary schools don't fit those criteria. "Mr. Ney likes steak" is not encyclopedic data. Read Wikipedia:Schools. --Orange Mike 00:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Also According to the proposed WP:SCHOOLS guidelines, it is ok so have a page about a school if: "The school is distinctive in any one of the following areas, or in any other areas for which it has received press or other coverage." Recently there was quite a lot of coverage relating to the Alpine Robotics Team, which is affiliated with the school. Also in numerous national competitions Poudre High school, and it's affiliated programs have been recognized.

Also in the notes section of the WP:SCHOOLS guidelines it states that: "Newspaper coverage includes regular coverage in local media (such as complete stories about a school's athletic program)." Which Poudre High School has been. Orangemike cannot be the judge of this because is not from an area where he has access to local news.

On to note 4 in WP:SCHOOLS guidelines. Although Poudre High School is one of but a few schools in the district, it's academic acheivement is often noted amongst schools in the entire state, and regularly does better than them in many nationally recognized and acclaimed sources such as Newsweek.

Also if you had read anything i had said in the discussion portion of the page you would realise that i did not support the addition of "Mr. Ney Likes steak," and in fact, openly contested it.

UMW was a bad example, what about CSU? What makes a high school less worthy than any number of universities?

And as to the "mush", sorry for not having spell check in my web browser, perhaos you can find it in your big kind heart to look past this? DemonOWA 00:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Another notworthy event: Poudre High was asked to go to the Fringe festival in Scotland, and had it's band ascked to play at Carnegie hall in New York City.DemonOWA 00:40, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep if verified The various high national placements in various competitions would assert sufficient notability, but currently, there's only a link to the robotics team. Thus, if the information about the science competitions is verified, my !vote is a keep. If info is not verified, it is unacceptable for any article, and thus, my !vote is delete. -- Kicking222 00:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The claims have been verified; the school's achievements are certainly notable. -- Kicking222 13:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Universities by definition are more notable than high schools, just as high schools are more likely to be notable than elementary schools or pre-schools. And I do, incidentally, have access to cbs4denver.com and The Coloradoan. _{Sorry about the mush joke, DemonOWA, but as Mr. Coatman, Mr. Hlawaty, Mrs. Hunt and Mrs. King have undoubtedly told you, people find it harder to take your writing seriously when you appear unable to spell or use correct language.} --Orange Mike 00:57, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

So you admit to seeing that Poudre High School is noteworthy in our local, and state area, and if that is the case then it under the noteworthy section of WP:SCHOOLS DemonOWA 01:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: This is a reasonable subject for an article, although I am not sure about including 100% of the content. Note to Orangemike and DemonOWA: personal gibes between real-world acquaintances, whether intended seriously or (as I hope) as just friendly teasing, don't really belong here. Newyorkbrad 01:47, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that none of the claims were cited originally and that is completely inappropriate to make unsubstantiated claims. DemonOWA and myself have added citations to reputable third party confirmation of the many of the claims and will continue to do so. To the best of my knowledge the information listed on the page is correct. Variable Z 02:28, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: I obviously want to keep this page open, though I am not sure if my vote counts here. DemonOWA 03:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: this is not a vote. If you have anything to add to the discussion, that will be considered. --Pak21 09:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Looks well-enough cited now to establish notability. Shimeru 10:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Article makes explicit claims of notability in compliance with WP:SCHOOL with reliable sources. Alansohn 13:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep — Notable. Hey, this forum is slowly becoming the High School Article Improvement Drive (HSAID)! The page looks decent but it needs more citations. — RJH (talk) 15:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

It certainly is much improved from when I nominated it, which is one of the hoped-for results of an AfD nomination! --Orange Mike 23:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Meets all relevant proposed guidelines and policies for inclusion. Silensor 00:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per the commenters above. Yamaguchi先生 03:30, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per commenters above. Any school that has IB is notable, but isn't it a waste of time to search for EVERY high school article and nominate it for deletion just for notability? Schools are, in fact, inherently notable enough to be here on Wikipedia. Zadernet 08:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.