Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter H. Gilmore

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The result was speedy keep. Creating this AfD was the nom's first edit and no policy-based reasons for deletion have been offered. WjBscribe 01:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter H. Gilmore

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Not notable Moffollo 08:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep - Clearly notable as a religious leader, and this is a well sourced article. Hard to believe that anyone would think he was NN. StuartDouglas 10:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - Some whack-job who leads a tiny cult is "clearly notable"? If I can get 10,000 people to subscribe to insane & evil beliefs do I get a Wikipedia article? --Moffollo 11:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• No offence, but calling him a 'whack-job' and the well-known Church of Satan 'a tiny cult' filled with 'evil beliefs' doesn't make you sound entirely impartial and suggests this nomation has not been made in good faith. The CoS isn't my cup of tea, either, but it definitely is notable. StuartDouglas 12:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• Strong keep. High Priest of the Church of Satan. Definitely notable. Abeg92contribs 11:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep as he meets the biographical criteria for inclusion: A person is notable if he or she has been the subject of secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject. Often intervieded and given extensive media attention he is an important leader in what has been established as a notable oranization, Anton LaVey's Church of Satan. The sources section needs to be rewritten though. I might do so myself if I find the time. NeoFreak 13:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Though the article is missing citations and should be cleaned up. -- Craigtalbert 15:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep - easily meets WP:BIO, although the section at the bottom which lists interviews should be reworked as references tp the article to bring it up to WP's standards for referenced content. Tarinth 18:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep certainly meets every relevant critaria.Gurvon 22:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy keep Nomination by IP tells everything I need to know. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Nominator's contribs. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep- I personally think that Jim Jones, L. Ron Hubbard, and Alistair Crowley were all whack jobs, but that doesn't mean they aren't notable. Also, unlike the first two, the CoS is not a cult and does not function like one. Furthermore, the CoS does not give out its actual membership numbers so there's no saying that its a tiny cult. And finally, yes, if you could get 10,000 people to join your group, you'd be worth noting.

• Comment - You think Scientology is a cult, but not the Church of Satan? At least Scientology makes attempts to hide it's cult status. --Moffollo 10:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - What has the CoS done to be considered a cult? It seems like you don't really understand the concept Anton Lavey was promoting. Satanists, by his definition, are complete and total individualists and their foremost conviction is that a person should look at every situation from all angles and never allow themselves to be taken advantage of. This is in stark contrast to Scientology, which requires participants to put their faith in a higher power and surrender free will. And for God's sake, if you're going to mark an article for deletion, explain a bit about WHY you think this topic is Not Notable. Your opinion does not make it a fact.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.