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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 02:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pennichuck talk

Prdo removed. Nonsense language, WP:NOT for some (nonsense) thing made up in a school day.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete "At one of its three middle schools ...". Daniel Case 02:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete As someone attending the high school in which this "phenomenon" is "taking hold", I can say first-hand that this is by far not noteworthy enough to be on Wikipedia. This "dialect" is practiced by an extreme minority of individuals in high schools and one middle school. - Mike 02:37, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep If one knows "Mike" one will know that he infact does attend this high school, but that the claims he makes are an attack to discredit and destroy an article that has not even had a chance to firmly plant its feet on the ground. Within 10 minutes of being created it was on the table for deletion, and while many in the wikipedia community may see that as a victory I see it as a shame - a shame that new ideas cannot be expressed or shared with the rest of the world. All I implore is that this article is allowed to remain active for more than five days so that those who have made this dialect so famous can voice their opinions and show that this article is "Notable" - Smack-nhn 02:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I don't want to make you sad, but raising the pitch of your voice to imply sarcasm on a word not normally used in that context is absolutely nothing new to the English language; it's a method of speaking that most everyone discovers at some point in the development of speech. T K E 17:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • GEEEE THANKS I wish this had an audio file, Keegan, so we could demonstrate. I don't want to make you sad, but isn't reading articles prolifically on Wikipedia mean you have a very, boring life? After all - you stop vandalism like there's no tommorow. I salute you! Smack-nhn 04:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I will take that as a backhanded compliment. Look, it's nice to have something catch on and I don't doubt that your group has done that. But I had a History of the English Language professor who swore up and down that her family invented the word "crud" in 1955, and there is no way she would consider it inclusive as she admits there is no proof. That's from an person who knows language and dialect. Now, if I'm sitting down here in Tennessee and in six months to two years I hear this, then I will support. The point of the editors is that a few thousand teens (or adults) in New Hampshire are simply not notable. Myspace is a place to rally trends, not Wikipedia. By all means look over this place and the links pointed out, and become a serious editor. We take it seriously because there are several hundred new pages everyday that have to be filtered. I am here because I love history and English, but my job is not in the field so it's a nice way to relax for me. I don't consider you a vandal, I take your contributions assuming good faith. CC to the user's talk. T K E 05:28, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete Pennichuck Talk is not simply a local-Interest or a small scale dialect. It is a phenomenon that is starting to take hold throught the city of Nashua and the Region of Southern New Hampshire. Due to the increased networking of young adults in today's society - what may seem as insignificant or "un-notable" can very quickly become a national trend. By killing this article before it even starts, you are in effect killing the documentation of a dialect of the english language. Already, we here in Southern New Hampshire are seeing increased use of this "talk" among young adults from other schools through interaction in sports, clubs, and other extra-cirricular activity. The fact that it has spawned use by thousands of people after originally being born from a select few shows that this dialect Demands Notation - in a few short years it has firestormed and simply deleting it because it hasn't reached you yet is killing a part of our culture. A part of our culture that could reach you in a few years. If this site is all about spreading information and breaking borders, why is there censorship on what is percieved to be "Not-Notable" material.smack-nhn 30 March 2006
  • see discussion page for reasons to keep this page alive —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smack-nhn (talk • contribs). (I moved these two comments of Smack's; they were above the deletion nomination Joe 05:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC).)
  • Please don't vote twice --TBC??? ??? ??? 04:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, obvious nonsense and neologism made up by a couple of high school students on a school day--TBC??? ??? ??? 03:13, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • This was not made up in a day - it has been evolving over the past 4 yearsSmack-nhn 03:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Question: Is there any verifiable evidence that Pennichuck talk has spread outside of the schools of Nashua, New Hampshire? If so, has it been written up in a publication that we can independently verify? --Elkman - (talk) 05:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Answer: Nope. This hasn't even spread that far in the Nashua School System. --Mike 05:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Follow Up Answer: Maybe...We don't know for sure one way or the other. And Mike - I love you - Do you wanna go to prom with me? I need a date ;)Smack-nhn 04:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and Mike. Joe 05:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and whatnot. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 06:00, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Duh-LEEEEET. private neologisms. --moof 06:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete WP is not for things made up in school one day.  (aeropagitica)  06:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NOT, WP:NFT, WP:NEO, and WP:WINAD. Royboycrashfan 06:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete this utter nonsense.Vizjim 08:41, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete, yet another non-notable neologism. JIP | Talk 09:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, neologism, WP:NFT. --Terence Ong 10:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Local nonsense Celcius 13:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable. So much so, perhaps this should be captured and put on WP:NFT as the canonical example of something made up in school one day. ;) And what does "crecendoing" mean anyway? --Deville (Talk) 14:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per Smack-nhn. --Siva1979Talk to me 15:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment I can't believe that an experienced hand like you, Siva, could be conned in this way.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 22:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment Siva1979 - You're my heeerrrooo. Smack-nhn 04:11, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as above, but I like Derville's idea that this should be kept in some form as the epitome of this kind of stuff. ProhibitOnions 16:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per neologism, WP:NFT as stated above by Terence Ong.--Isotope23 16:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete It's not original in any form, unlike piglatin. It's a manner of speaking that is commomplace and wasn't "invented" anywhere by anyone on particular. T K E 17:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, please. Utterly unverfiable and just a simple neologism, per Mr. Ong. Kuru talk 00:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Concession Knowing you guys are gonna tank this - I would be honored if this is used as an example of what not to do. I was upset at first, I can not lie, but I realize that it's hilarious how seriously this is being taken. Feel free to delete at will, but immortalizing it as the epitome of what not to do would be the highest honor I could ever hope for. On a side note: Thanks to Siva1979 for not being a jerk, supporting free speech, and obviously liking the Smashing Pumpkins. Rock on and keep on rantin' Smack-nhn 03:43, 31 March 2006 (UTC) P.S - I WILL NEVER PUBLISH ANOTHER ARTICLE IF THIS BECOMES A PERMANENT EXAMPLE OF WHAT NOT TO DO. YAAAAAAAA!!!! Smack-nhn 03:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment Believe you me, there are examples of what not to do. Don't take it personally. T K E 05:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • do not delete honestly, at first I would have agreed with you. but after reading the article, i was so enlightened! People who live in Nashua actually really need this to be here. contrary to popular belief, this is more than a few kids making up stuff. this is one of those things that will spread like wildfire as did the use of awkward. I say ohp and I didnt even realize it was pennichuck talk. Now I can recognize it when I hear it. Mark my words, when this hits LA, you heard it on wikipedia first. user:lizzie 31 March (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.31.67.152 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 30 March 2006.
    • Comment actually posted by an anon impersonating a user.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:31, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment And, notwithstanding that, "you heard it on Wikipedia first" pretty much well recapitulates the reasons for which deletion is urged. Joe 05:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
        • Comment but hey, they're from New Jersey! Soon, the whole midwest... sarcasm as per my userpage. T K E 05:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete encyclopedic juvenilia. Nice try tho'. Fishhead64 06:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NEO, WP:V, WP:NFT. --Kinu t/c 07:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. --Khoikhoi 01:12, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


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