Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 11:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster

A recipe, and a fictional one at that, with nonexistent ingredients. It has been transwikied to wikibooks. Brian G. Crawford 04:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - major reference from The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Definitely notable. MikeWazowski 04:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Neutral- but I'm leaning very heavily towards keep. Would change vote if references to the PGGB OUTSIDE of THHGTG could be located and included. Badgerpatrol 04:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Ironically some of the references are internal, such as the Wikipedia:2005 Britannica takeover of Wikimedia: "Zaphod Beeblebrox is Minister of Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters." There are a couple other references listed under The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy cultural references#Other references. --JohnDBuell 11:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment- On reading this, my first thought was "oh come on! I'm as much an Adams fan as any geek, but this is too much: next we'll have an entry on Romulan Ale!" Ah, but we do. --Saforrest 05:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per MikeWazowski, significant part of a significant book. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa!-E@ 06:35, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, absurd nomination.--Sean Black ^(talk) 06:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
  • You're an admin? Well, that surprises the hell out of me. Let me explain something to you. Either Wikipedia isn't a cookbook, or WP:NOT should be amended for us masses. Even if it were, it wouldn't be obliged to include fictional recipes. Sure, I read the Hitchhiker's Guide in junior high, as did a lot of other people. That's why the Hitchhiker's Guide is notable, but every little detail from it is not. I'm trying to clean up the cocktail articles, and having this fictional bullshit around doesn't help. Pretty please, delete this crap, or I may have to take it to deletion review on the basis that recipes shouldn't be included. Brian G. Crawford 06:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Do not patronise me. If you had actually read the article and done the proper research, you would find that this is clearly an encyclopedic topic and that an excellent article can be written about it. However, you resorted your typical tactics of forcing your personal dislike of topics from fiction and popular culture in a misguided attempt to "cleanse" the encyclopedia of so-called "cruft". Given the fact that you seem to have little to no interest in actually contributing content to Wikipedia, and instead only wish to remove things based on your personal biases, I refuse to be spoken to in this manner.--Sean Black ^(talk) 07:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
      • WP:NPA. and WP:No pissing contests either. Fagstein 20:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Not every gag from one's favorite books deserves its own article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.170.224.208 (talk • contribs).
• Keep, term used repeatedly in a very notable book series. Catamorphism 07:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, and keep the recipe in it too. This is an important part of a very notable book series. And the recipe should stay, because it's the one actually used in the book, not some fanboy's own idea of a "real" version of the drink. JIP | Talk 09:10, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I've never even read the book and I've heard about it! --mboverload 09:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect. Single jokes don't need articles ... Two long quotes linked by bland sentences. That's not research, it's plagiarism. -- GWO
• Keep - maybe add a tag that the article (even without recipes that have been moved to Wikibooks) can still be expanded. --JohnDBuell 11:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per GWO. (ESkog)^(Talk) 13:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable and not just within the SF genre. However including the recipe might be copyvio so I'd double check that if I were you. 23skidoo 13:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to somewhere, or keep. You should try one, it's like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick. I read that in a book somewhere. Oh, wait... Just zis Guy you know? 13:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per JIP. youngamerican (talk) 14:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy and I concur with GWO. One-off jokes from a book, even one as good as the Hitch-hiker's series don't need an article unless the term has entered into the general lexicon of language (i.e. Babelfish). If this gets kept though, wouldn't the recipe be a copyvio? Not 100% sure how fair use relates to text passages from a copyrighted work... but I suspect they are not covered. I'm no lawyer though.--Isotope23 14:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as a viable cultural reference. When a friend asked me recently "what is a PGGB," I told him, "look it up in Wikipedia."--Subwoofer 15:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Just because it's fictional doesn't mean we can't have an article about it. Jimpartame 15:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable concept from a very notable series of books. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 16:24, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --Terence Ong 16:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Hugely popular series, pop culture reference, mentioned across several popular literary works. Ridiculous nomination. Aguerriero (ţ) (ć) (ë) 17:47, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep notaable fictional cocktail Tim! 18:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep; one of the most famous HHGTTG jokes after 42. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 21:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as one of the more famous and oft-referenced gags elsewhere from HHGTTG. TheRealFennShysa 23:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per the above comments. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 23:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - pile on to make sure this discussion ends. The books, films, musical, radio series were very popular. - Richardcavell 01:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Fancruft. KleenupKrew 23:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Adding this to the H2G2 article would just be adding to an already long article. If such an action IS taken, I'd suggest that a new subpage, something like "List of memes originating with The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" be created - The PGGB, Towels, 42, Babel Fish, etc COULD be all put there at that point. --JohnDBuell 02:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.