Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Opus15

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete HappyCamper 02:26, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Opus15

Non-notable. Laudable, but not yet notable. - Just zis Guy, you know? 11:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• Template:Votedelete as per nomination. --Randy 20:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

As with many locally-grown music movements - it's my contention that although possibly not-yet-notable to many, this article and others like it should be included for the significant number of users to whom this article is notatble. May I also refer you to the Music Notability Discussion -- DesignbyGecko 00:51, 30 October 2005

• Absolutely every band in the world, however bad, is notable to at least its members. Many of these bands go through several changes of personnel (and often name) before disappearing without ever having made a mark. Their own assertions of "spearheading" new movements in music are generally unverifiable. Unless and until a band has reached some reasonably verifiable and measurable level of success (e.g. making top 100 in the indie charts) I can't see much point adding them. One of the problems with the deletion policy as-is, though, is that it is inherently vulnerable to those with an agenda (see the never-ending debate re minor schools); it's not that I don't respect the views of inclusionists, but a voting process is about our personal view of how the article measures up to our interpretation of the criteria for inclusion. Minor bands are hard to verify, and minor bands' pages are generally written by fans so will often fail WP:NPOV with no hope of balance because only their fans have ever heard of them. I have no idea how to fix this, other than by using something like Wikicities. - Just zis Guy, you know? 08:36, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
• Fair point. -- DesignbyGecko 01:12, 31 October 2005
• Delete per nom. PS. The Olsen twins on vocals?? Aecis 23:33, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.