Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oliver Sykes

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The result was Delete - NYC JD (make a motion) 12:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oliver Sykes

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The page does not establish any notability for the individual aside from his association with the band Bring Me the Horizon, which itself just barely seems to meet notability criteria for WP:MUSIC (based on its AfD discussion). This page seems more of a fansite for the individual and a marketing tool for his clothing business. Normally I would recommend a merge, but I don't see any notable info that can't be found on the band's page - I think the best course would be a delete and redirect to the band's page. RJASE1 ^Talk 18:09, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Delete as per nom --J2thawiki 18:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Keep - I understand what the nominater is saying. However, many of the BMTH fans (especially the girls) really like Oli.... This to me gives him some notability. Fair enough, Drop Dead Clothing isn't very big. So that doesn't add to his notability. However, he is the lead singer of BMTH - who I do believe easily meets the notability criteria, as one can buy their material from many good retailers including HMV (I saw their cds there last week), also they are doing a UK tour (not that big, but are being supported by IKTPQ), BMTH also won the Kerrang new-comer award, so they appear to be easily notable enough. However, this is not about BMTH, Oli Sykes did all the artwork for their albums, as well as most (if not all) of the music and lyrics. I believe more citation is needed. However, the article is more informative than some other metal band members such as Travis Smith and Nicholas Brooks. Therefore I believe that this article is important enough to be here. And if altered slightly, could be a very good article. Thanks, Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 19:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Delete, no non-trivial external references in an article about a living person leaves no other choice. Change to KEEP if sources are added by end of this AfD Alf photoman 22:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
• The band won The Kerrang! award for Best British Newcomer in 2006. I think that seeing the band is clearly notable, the lead vocalist should be notable enough for an article. Keep and tag with {{unreferenced}} until sources are dug up-K@ngie^meep! 06:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - self-promotion. Deb 12:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment Self-promotion is the act of promoting one's own businesses and/or one's self, so I do not find it feasible that my creation of an article can be self-promoting for someone else. Perhaps it could be classed as promotion; however, apart from mentioning Drop Dead Clothing, there is nothing that I can see that could possibly be classed as promoting. However, Drop Dead Clothing is Oli's own business, so needs to be mentioned in a biographical article. Asics talk ^{Editor review!} 16:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - This article contains nothing notable not already in the band's page. Also fails WP:BIO and borders on self-promition. A1octopus 10:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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