Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Not For Sale

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 12:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not For Sale

Crystal balling. This uncited article offers no specific release date. Prod was removed by User:Blackjays with no comment. Mikeblas 00:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Seems fine to me, and it will probably grow as we grow closer to the release date of the album. I personally have not heard of most of the artists listed in the article, but Rihanna is currently quite a prominent name. I think it should be fine to keep. --Mrmaroon25 00:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. seems to be a confirmed album of a notable artist. Koweja 00:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This is a confirmed album, and there is no specific release date. However, it does not really make sense to delete an article which will be back up eventually. This is not quite crystal balling since Akon and Kardinal Offishall himself both stated that it will be released early next year. There are also references even though my article is claimed to be uncited (note the subtitle which reads "References"), and they should be taken into account. Blackjays 04:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. If these artists have verifiably confirmed the release date, please do add a specific reference because neither reference (in the subtitle which reads "References") contains that information. -- Mikeblas 15:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, album seems to be confirmed. If there is reliable sources, then it is not crystal ballism. --Terence Ong _{(C | R)} 08:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Article is referenced and its sources appear to be reliable. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Question. The references on the page at the moment don't confirm the album, and therefore also do not provide a concrete release date. This is pure speculation, then. Or am I missing something? One of the references given is a MySpace page, which is full of copyvio videos and a bunch of other crap, so I didn't spend much time trying to read through it. -- Mikeblas 15:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above, the album is verified and confirmed. RFerreira 02:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Just to set the record straight (no pun intended), I will admit that there is no actual DATE of release for this album. I agree with Mikeblas, but I dont agree that my article is completely uncited, and I don't see any major crystal balling here. Mike, you ask if you are missing something, and seeing as you didn't spend the time to fully browse the references, I think you were missing something. --Blackjays 12:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • • Comment. Note that the above comments were written by [User:74.116.213.216], which may or may not be [User:Blackjays]. -- Mikeblas 13:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. What I'm missing is useful references in this article. I keep prying away links to copyvio material. All I'm left with is a painfully bad MySpace page, and I have a hard time considering that as a real reference. If this artist is notable and the release date is certain, then I'd expect reliable references (from Rolling Stone, say; or a hip-hop music magazine) to not be hard to find. As it stands, a search for the artist and the album title on Google [1] gets me less than 260 hits. The only ones with release dates seem to be Wikipedia mirror sites. Is htis article original research, then? Or is it just that this title isn't notable? Or is it just that the title will be notable when it's released, and assuming it is notable now is just crystal balling? The assertions here that the release is "verified and confirmed" don't site anything, either; and those contributors haven't bothered to improve the article. -- Mikeblas 13:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. Yes it was me, Blackjays, I just didn't sign in at the time of the comments. One thing is for certain, more information will eventually be available for this album as we get closer to the early 2007 release, and this article is staying put (judging by the "keep support"). Blackjays 13:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'd hope that it's not at all certain! WP:CRYSTAL should guide the administrator closing this article, reagardless of the "support" here. Particularly since nobody here asserting that the album is confirmed or verfied has provided a shred of evidence of that confirmation and verification. Not only does WP:CRYSTAL apply, then, but so does WP:V. -- Mikeblas 14:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.