Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norfolk Island national football team

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:06, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Norfolk Island national football team

Contested Prod, and a contested prod based on good reasoning, rather than just the removal of a prod tag by someone unhappy with the issue. Simply put, there is no evidence that Norfolk Island (a non-sovereign dependency of Australia) has a national football team. The best that can be found are links such as this, which list a "Norfolk Island Soccer Association" and then have no results when that link is clicked and this, which seems to assume that a team exists, however it isn't listed in any of the other pages of the site, most importantly here, where one would expect members and non-members to appear. Additionally, having spent a considerable amount of time on the island myself, I'm willing to lay odds that there might be a social/club competition but nothing more than that. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as non-verifiable, possible hoax. Ultra-Loser Talk / Contributions 06:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as wishful thinking, part of a Non-FIFA Football fan project. I swear that something like VIVA World Cup was deleted already? --Dhartung | Talk 06:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Personally connected to the refernce above, primarily use for junior sport, so really has no references at all.Qaanaaq 07:17, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per all above. --Pan Gerwazy 10:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - I was the one who de-prodded it, since there is some evidence for its existence, but the evidence is sparse at best, and even if it exists it is probably non-notable. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 16:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Norfolk Island is not affiliated with FIFA or the relevant regional football body and never has been. To the best of my knowledge, a Norfolk Island team has never competed in an international competition and there are no sources cited in the article indicating otherwise. They don't even participate in any soccer competitions of note in Australia. Capitalistroadster 03:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - the more I think about it, the only thing they could participate in would be Commonwealth Games matches, and they don't even play Soccer there. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment - There are plenty of unrecognized national teams that play against other unrecognized national teams, and many of them have articles which are vigorously defended. NF-Board teams (which are generally not affiliated with their regional associations) are certainly allowed articles on Wikipedia. There are several teams which are not even NF-board members which have articles as well. As long as they play against other teams which regard themselves as "national", and this can be verified, it's usually enough to keep their articles. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 13:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 03:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Is there any evidence that the games mentioned in the infobox were actually played? If so it may be worth investigating. if not, Delete. Some info could possible go into Football (soccer) on Norfolk Island -- Chuq 06:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • A cursory Google for their "first international" against the Kerguelen Islands team (itself a redlink and its nominal "national federation" being up for AfD as a hoax) comes up blank, with the exception of Wikipedia of course :} BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, most likely a hoax. I doubt they bother with any sporting tournaments in the Kerguelen Islands... QazPlm 11:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete WP:HOAX is most probable. I haven't found any evidence from reliable sources. That's my take on it. --SunStar Net 11:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per above. --Roisterer 11:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as hoax per lack of evidence otherwise. As a side note, I did not think Norfolk Islands was its own country, and hence that it would not have a "national" team for any sport. Ansell 09:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

  Plenty of "non-nations" have national teams. If they play on the international scene (against recognized and/or unrecognized nations), and act like a national team, they're considered national. _└ ^OzLawyer / _talk ^┐ 13:20, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

  • • Additionally, Norfolk Island competes under its own flag at the Commonwealth Games, where its Lawn Bowls team has achieved some degree of success. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, while Norfolk competes in its own right at some international sporting events, I'm fairly sure that soccer isn't one of them. Add the lack of sources and it should make the choice easy. Lankiveil 05:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC).

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.