Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York Anime Festival

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete per WP:NOT#CBALL. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 16:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New York Anime Festival

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Delete - Annual event that hasn't had it's first show yet, so no notability at all. No sources, no non trivial independent third-party media mentions, vaguely crystal-ball like (although it's not making predicitons, it IS assuming that the event is going to become notable), Prod was contested, although the issues raised were not addressed, so this is AfD is next precedural step. The Kinslayer 13:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete I'm an anime fan, but I can't argue with The Kinslayer's reasoning here. It hasn't happened yet, and there are no third party sources. I would not be opposed to recreation in the event that it does achieve substantial notability. Leebo⁸⁶ 13:49, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete Crystal ball and all that... I'd bet this will eventually warrant an article, but certainly not until after it happens. --PatrickD 16:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  I'm not sure it meets any of the criteria for speedy deletion. Crystalballery is part of "What Wikipedia is not", but the CSD explicitly states that being something being on that list is not a criterion for speedy deletion. The article makes a weak claim to notability, which is why discussion here is better. Leebo⁸⁶ 16:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - no reliable sources covering this future event -- Whpq 20:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
• KEEP - Looks legit, and there was a link at New York Comic Con. NoseNuggets 5:21 PM US EST Mar 2 2007

  Comment - I don't doubt that it's a legitimate convention and will take place, but please read this to understand why it doesn't warrant an article yet. If anything, New York Anime Festival should be a section on the New York Comic Con page until it warrants its own article...but not until after it happens. --PatrickD 22:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

  • So, should there be a "merger" tag then on this article? NoseNuggets 10:48 AM US EST Mar 3 2007

  You could put one if you want, or change your decision in this topic to "merge". The legitimacy is not the question here, it's the notability. Leebo⁸⁶ 17:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Looks like within it's genre news sources, it's getting coverage--comic book news sources, even the Science Fiction channel has a bit on it... also, some international coverage from all the way in New Zealand. Seems to pass the bar, will just grow with each later show. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. - Denny 20:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

  Comment I don't doubt that it would get a mention in a variety of news outlets, but does the mere announcement of this event make it notable with no actual details yet available about it? It seems that you are presuming this will be notable just because some news sites picked up on the announcement. --PatrickD 04:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

  Comment - If those sources are all just basically passing on the announcement, then they fail WP:N, specifically "Independence" excludes all self-publicity, advertising by the subject, self-published material, autobiographies, press releases, and other such works affiliated with the subject, its creators, or others with a vested interest or bias The Kinslayer 09:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

  Comment - The listed references consist of mentions in passing, short press release type announcements, and event listings. None of the references provided are what would be considered articles about the anime festival. -- Whpq 14:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The only thing the sources verify is that the convention will happen, and they all are based on the same press release. The one source that isn't a reprint of the press release (Sci-Fi Channel) is a clear misprint. --Farix (Talk) 12:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.