Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mystic Nation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 03:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mystic Nation

Non-notable band (I can find nothing on them outside of their own sites), article does not assert notability, probably either self-authored or copyvio Freekee 04:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, fails WP:BAND. --Terence Ong _{(T | C)} 05:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per nom, tagged as such. Molerat 12:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per Molerat. I'm a little confused as to what is the appropriate course in situations like these. Should a db template be added when an AFD subject also meets speedy? The admin processing the one added in this case removed it. I have seen it go the other way. If somebody is aware of policy on this matter, please let me know. Erechtheus 23:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
• It stays...

Mystic Nation is a trademark and the material is copywritten into history. The band owns the trademark, is a member of ASCAP and has international distribution. As far as notability, two of the band members were nominated for a Grammy in 2000, much of the historical record has not yet been uploaded, venturing into wikipedia seems a sticky subject, if there is a better way to present history and fact, not sensationalism, please explain. This page is only here to represent a group of musicians, a historical truth and basically the fact they have been performing all along with groups already existing on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Day_and_the_Time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublime_%28band%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Lobos
Oh yeah and part of some great history and truth...Goliath ordered http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Fleetwood
a sandwhich when he was a kid.

Based alone on the fact that these bands are listed, this band should also be.

Outside documents include several news articles (prior to the internet, but can be scanned) from the Spokesman Review in Spokane, Washington, Music Connection (an industry standard) in Los Angeles and quite a few other sources from the LA Times to OC Register and the NY Times. Part of the group was also voted one of the top Rock acts in California 2001 (again part of the historical record that has yet to be entered, though I am sure once this joust is over, people will).—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.126.24.38 (talk • contribs).

• Delete per WP:MUSIC. AllMusic.com hasn't heard of them, no evidence they've ever released an album, much less the two full-length albums required. ergot 18:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:MUSIC. Gamaliel 21:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I nominated this article, but if this person thinks the band is worthy of having an article, I'm willing to work with him on writing a new one - if he has evidence that it meets WP:BAND. He should comment here. In the meantime, still delete. -Freekee 13:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.