Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mulch, Sweat, and Shears

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete Opabinia regalis 04:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mulch, Sweat, and Shears

Mulch, Sweat, and Shears (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This article is about a cover band that solely plays at Disney-MGM Studios at the Walt Disney World Resort. There are no notability things, save for the fact they play at Disney. This article was deleted once, tonight, then recreated, and went through a non-AFD deletion tag edit war until I decided to send it to AFD (during which the author made the below statement).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - I'm trying to figure out what needs to change in order to avoid deletion. Can anyone help me here? Or perhaps suggest a page to merge it into? I feel the band is worthy of an entry here and am a little concerned that the article was deemed "blatant advertising" as it was not meant as such, nor am I in any place to do any advertising for the band. I am not a band member or anything like that, just someone who likes their shows. Perhaps I should remove the CD track listing?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by HBKFan75 (talk • contribs) .
• Comment or Suggestion, if you will - I think I can tell you this much - the many and various external links at the bottom of the page seem to suggest that the article is more than just about Mulch, Sweat, and Shears. Bubba hotep 10:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete an extremely non notable house band playing covers. Nuttah68 13:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - The suggestion above was implemented. Thanks. Any other ideas? I guess there is supposedly some sort of objective standard by which one can judge notoriety, but certainly there's something subjective in it. What makes Epcot band Off Kilter worthy of a page, but not Mulch, Sweat, and Shears? They've been around longer, I guess. But for the record, I'd say "extremely non notable" is an odd description of a band whose shows a minimum of 10,000 people a day at least catch a portion of. They do play in the world's fourth most visited them park, after all. And a Google Search turns up plenty of results from people who obviously consider them worth mentioning. Anyway, I suppose that's the case I have to make for them having an entry here. Looks like a losing battle, but I ought to make it in full nonetheless.--HBKFan75 05:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• Comment it's not just a numbers game. If Disney were to replace, one or all of the band would anyone (apart from the band) care? They need to be notable in their own right, otherwise they are just the band at the Disney resort. Nuttah68 09:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as nn group, per Ryulong. The Google hits don't impress me, there's little there but evidence someone has been very busy submitting lyrics to numerous song lyric sites and pr audition notices to various music sites. In addition, neither band name gets any hits on Factiva. Also, the website listed in the article doesn't work for me. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 06:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - I'm not going to make a statement for delete or keep since I was involved in the speedy delete edit war on this article originally. I would like to say that if the first two sections of this article were the only ones that existed I probably wouldn't have a problem with this article staying on Wikipedia. The problem is that the article right now is really two articles. One about the Disney band, which probably has enough notability to stay, and a second article about a different band with the same members that does not have enough notability to stay. Lose the parts about the second band, add some references (if they exist), and the article would probably measure up.--Hatch68 07:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Clear Delete as not notable. WMMartin 18:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.