Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Most games played, NFL history

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The result was keep per changes made since nom. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 04:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most games played, NFL history

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unneeded trivial list which would be good for a sports wiki but not here, violates WP:NOT, we rarely have articles on a individual record, deprodded by author, Delete-- Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 02:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 03:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Violates WP:NOT. TJ Spyke 03:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment I feel that if more effort went into providing context to the list, rather than just the bare-bones list, it might be salvageable. Unfortunately, it's extremely narrow in its focus, to the point of being excessive detail. This is true especially when comparing it to other major sports' record articles, which don't included individual lists for every record, only a compilation of all record holders. Leebo⁸⁶ 03:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

• I know this kind of argument never works, but FWIW, there are lots of similar pages at Category:Baseball records (some of which are really narrow in scope). Zagalejo 19:20, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I prodded a few of them Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 21:57, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

LOL, me and my big mouth... I do think the triples list at least deserves an AFD discussion, though. Zagalejo 23:46, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, just a list which serves no useful purpose. JIP | Talk 10:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per above. MER-C 11:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nomination.-Robotam 17:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I know it's incomplete, I'm doing it in my spare time, that's the reason I put "work inprogress". The reason I believe it's important it's because I haven't found anyplace in the web a page who contains this stats, and also helps to contribue to the bios of these players (i believe that the 150 plaayers with the most games in NFL history shoulkd have their bios in Wikipedia). Remember that I'm making the list manually, so I have to search in different sources or by memory which are the players with the most games. If Major League Baseball has it's list, why not the NFL? Gypaetus 17:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Delete I want to support the page or listification. However, given the state of NFL records (individual), it is too extensive a listing for one record. I do not see such list for other NFL records. TonyTheTiger 17:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Actually, I'd like to see tables like this for other NFL records. I don't think this counts as indiscriminate information. Career games played is a major statistic, and I've seen general-interest almanacs with similar (though shorter) lists. Zagalejo 19:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Delete per TonyTheTiger - Fedayee 19:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment To all the delete voters: what specific part of WP:NOT does this violate? Zagalejo 23:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Which specific part of WP:NOT is violated? This is not indiscriminate information, as there is a good chance that if someone read this sentence from George Blanda Blanda held the record for most professional football games played with 340 until September 26, 2004, when it was broken then, a link (not added, to prevent a red-link should this be deleted) to Most games played, NFL history would provide added context which is notable and verifiable. Neier 01:11, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This article doesn't have informations, they created article for listing each games on different purposes. Daniel5127 <Talk> 03:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Eh? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here... Zagalejo 03:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - while it is perhaps longer than it should be, there is a clear criterion for individuals to be included in the list. Poor quality of other articles is not a reason to delete this. Eludium-q36 18:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

But this info should be in a sports wiki at best, not here, it's unneeded and dumb to add record stats of every record possible unless it's in one page Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 21:16, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Again, which part of WP:NOT is violated by this article? Since WP:5 mentions that Wikipedia incorporates elements from almanacs, and a list of records like this is something I would expect to see in an almanac or a specialized (sports) encyclopedia, I don't see what makes it deletable.Neier 22:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

You think it's unneeded and dumb; I think it's perfectly reasonable. If it were, say, List of NFL players ranked by number of touchdowns scored at Lambeau Field in the snow, then I would agree with you, but career games played is an interesting and important statistic. Zagalejo 00:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep I have now completed 99% of the list, I believe, I have already 211 players (each of them also has ihis page in Wikipedia) who have played at least 200 games in NFL history. I know the list should be shorter, biut here in Wikipedia you can fin the 500 baseball players with the most home runs. In the forthcoming days I will ewxpand everything.Gypaetus 20:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Per Neier.Patken4 17:44, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Neier. Spy1986 11:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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