Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mikko Alanne

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mailer Diablo 10:31, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mikko Alanne

Vanity bio of a Hollywood screenwriter. Originally made extravagant -- and false (or at least undocumented) -- claims, but when Prod'ed, those claims were deleted, leaving very little -- no awards, no big or critically acclaimed films, etc. Calton | Talk 02:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Counter:

Carlton’s comments are completely baseless and seem to rather reflect poor on-line research skills or some personal agenda. All what he calls “claims” were and are true and verifiable facts. See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1209140/bio and http://www.finngatepictures.com/bios_mikko The article was merely edited for length per his suggestions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.129.144 (talk • contribs).

• Delete - per nom. Also, don't remove AFD notices from articles. Wickethewok 14:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: The article was merely edited for length per his suggestions.

• Uh huh. My Prod comment was Vanity bio of a Hollywood screenwriter -- no awards, no big or critically acclaimed films, and IMDB doesn't back many (if not most) of the claims made -- "editing for length" ain't in it. And this shows the original claims that anon ip (presumably the same anon above) left out when he removed the Prod tag. To sum up:

• He began his career as a researcher and story editor for Academy Award-winning director Oliver Stone, and later wrote two films for the director, Ghosts of My Lai and Empire.
• Alanne's recent screenplays include ...the time travel thriller Paradox for Touchstone, ABC and The Mark Gordon Company...
• ...and the forensic anthropology drama The Body Farm for ABC and Touchstone Television. His other screenplays include Blood of Saints for Revolution Studios, Roman Ritual and Shadows.

• A look at Alanne's IMDB filmography shows only Paradox --as an "annnounced" film for 2007, with no other talent credits -- and the two films allegedly written for Oliver Stone don't show up on his filmography, either. Just about every word of the anon's rebuttal is false, including "and" and "the". He couldn't even spell my name correctly. --Calton | Talk 21:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

• The IMDb doesn’t list all active development credits. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.129.144 (talk • contribs).

• If you wish to participate in AFD, please register for an account, it makes it a lot easier to see what edits you have made and it gives other editors something to call you. Wickethewok 04:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• As the SAT might have put it, "active development:movies = unpublished:books". While half the white people in West L.A. might have scripts stuck in their desk drawers, it doesn't mean they can put those scripts on their CVs. Also, remember verifiability policy. --Calton | Talk 04:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

• Calton, just FYI:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117927068?categoryid=14&cs=1

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117895866?categoryid=14&cs=1

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/los_angeles_metro/la-me-rapper25jun25,1,5729599.story?coll=la-commun-los_angeles_metro&ctrack=1&cset=true

http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=3554028

http://www.chud.com/news/sept03/sept23sly.php3

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.129.144 (talk • contribs).

• I believe the above links disprove Calton’s claims against the veracity and relevance of this article. It is pertinent to note, too, that Calton's arguments consist solely of his personal opinions and interpretations, rather than facts. There is nothing in the present version of the article that isn’t current or readily verifiable through multiple published sources. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.129.144 (talk • contribs).
• PLEASE sign your posts with four tildas: ~~~~ Wickethewok 16:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 20:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Actual verified credits are 3 shorts, a TV documentary, and some announced projects which may or may not amount to anything. The arguments of a proven liar don't carry much weight. Fan-1967 01:20, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:VAIN. Danny Lilithborne 02:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:VAIN, most of the claims in the article are unverifiable per my arguments in the Finngate Pictures AfD debate. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 03:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete vanity page. JChap (talk • contribs) 04:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete vanity/promo. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.