Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael R. Mennenga

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael R. Mennenga, Evo Terra

"Award-winning" "podcaster, writer, and businesman" -- except the two books he's authored are put out by vanity presses, the award isn't specified, the article on the podcast survived a vaguely decided "no consensus" AFD, and the article on the company he takes credit for co-founding WAS nuked at an AFD. A couple of hundred Google hits for "Michael R. Mennenga" -- with the second from the top being this article, always a bad sign. Also add his co-podcaster, Evo Terra. Calton | Talk 02:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Slice of SciFi won the Podcast & New Media People's Choice Award in 2005. - --Joelrees 05:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Vanity piece. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimbo68 (talk • contribs) 11:34, October 25, 2006.
• Keep this guys are actually very notable as podcasters go - they run one of the larger podcasting 'families' (Farpoint media), they've won the people's choice award, as Joelrees pointed out, they recently ran the podcasting track at Dragon*Con, and their own podcasts are heavily subscribed. I'm pretty sure Slice of Sci Fi and Wingin' it are both in the podcast pickle hall of fame, but I can't check right now because the site appears to be down. -- Vary | Talk 15:37, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment and note that the 'no consensus' afd on Slice of Sci Fi was nearly a year ago, and both of the delete votes appear to have been because the editors thought podcasting was too new to be in Wikipedia. If these articles had been started then, deleting them may have been appropriate, but they've gained a lot of notability in the past year. And yes, I'm a fan, but I think I've supported my position well enough for that to be overlooked. -- Vary | Talk 15:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep one I've edited these before (nominating their Farpoint podcast company for AFD & using prod on other linked articles). The sources for Terra include co-authorship of a (non-vanity) book and media coverage of the "podiobook" startup - so I don't see the point in deleting him. But I don't see any sources for Mennenga's own notability that would meet WP:V. Even though that might be a generic problem for podcasting guys, it's the current policy. Mereda 10:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I grow continually more and more dissapointed with the militant hatred that Wikipedia has for podcasting. I agreed with the vote sometime back to scrap the article for Farpoint Media as company itself is not as notable as the podcasters and podcasts produced under its auspices. However, Michael and Evo are well known persons to a large audience, especially Michael. He is either the host or engineer for a number of podcasts and, as was noted, engineered the podcast track for this year's DragonCon. I don't see anything in the article that isn't verifiable. The article could stand some expanding, but Mennenga is well known to enough people to warrant his inclusion here. As I look at User:Uncle G/On notability, he notes that artists who have a top 10 song and authors who have a widely read book are automatically notable enough for inclusion, even if there aren't many independent articles about them. I would argue that podcasters like Michael and Evo who have a large listening audience to their shows should be considered in that same vein.Ultimate ed 04:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. They seem notable enough, especially Evo who co-authored one of the For Dummies books. - Lex 02:57, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep notable. I even own one of Terra's books. --Marriedtofilm 06:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep notable. I own Terra's book as well. ----[[User:Terry976|Terry976] 07:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Strong and Speedy Keep Highly notable. Dr.khan 15:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.