Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Paul Oman-Reagan

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The result of the debate was no consensus. Woohookitty 05:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Paul Oman-Reagan

Delete - Not notable artist vanity. Less than 50 Google hits, for some perspective I googled other minimalist artists like Sol LeWitt and Donald Judd and they were each in the 40,000-60,000 range. I also nominate Field Gallery, his gallery, google search of "field gallery" Michael Paul Oman-Reagan returns 8 results. TheMidnighters 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)

• This is an interesting point you make in your vfd request. Let's look at it from another perspective. If I google Bill Doss I get 985 results. However if I google other Musicians like Michael Jackson and Madonna they are in the 6,960,000- 21,200,000 range. Clearly this means...? Nothing? Something? you tell me. Apples and oranges, does that mean apples don't matter? 66.108.21.54 21:52, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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• Weak Keep- articles like Pandeism are kept with a lot less google hits and my understanding the google hits is a guideline instead of official policy. He has a total of 37 relevant google hits, so I vote a week keep. Falphin 8 July 2005 19:39 (UTC)
• Delete. No entry or appearance in the Grove Art database. No entry in any biographical database I searched. No trace of him shows up in a journal article database. Gamaliel 8 July 2005 19:56 (UTC)
• Delete nn vanity/promotion. --Etacar11 8 July 2005 23:58 (UTC)
• Delete non notable vanity. JamesBurns 9 July 2005 03:33 (UTC)
• Keep If you google just Oman-Reagan you get over 99 hits for this artist. Additionally you will find him mentioned in Modern Painters magazine and ARTnews magazine. More important is the Field gallery listing. It really is an important institution. I say, keep him and add more information about his role as the founder of the gallery. July 17 2005 unsigned vote by 66.108.21.54,

The preceding keep vote was written by the creator of the article, as was the one that originally followed. --TheMidnighters 20:04, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• That is correct, the above Keep was written by me, the author of the article. I am working on a history of a particular art movement over the last decade in Portland, Oregon and the artists who were involved. This article is an artist who was part of this movement. This movement and the artists have been repoted about on CNN, written about in Art Forum, ArtNews, Art in America, The Oregonian, The Organ, The Portland Tribune and more. It has been discussed by Jerry Salz art critic for the Village Voice (he called it intimidating), as well as Larry Rinder, former curator of the Whitney Museum of American Art. The following keep was NOT written by me, but rather by a user who shares the same wireless internet connection as I do, as does an entire building and possibly more. His comment is pointless, nevertheless, it is a keep vote as he is a distinct person.66.108.21.54 20:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - There is no shortage of storage in this world. Enlarge yours duplicate vote (actually not a duplicate vote, but using the same internet connection)

• Please provide links or citations to these mentions if possible. Gamaliel 00:00, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - There is no shortage of storage in this world. Enlarge yours

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• Here are the sources:

Richard Speer,“City Focus: Portland” ARTnews(Oct 2004)

Jeff Jahn, “Something to Prove” Modern Painters(Spring 2003)

And here is a recent article describing Portland's most important collector and her interest in and ::collection of Oman-Reagan's work: Joseph Gallivan, “The Accidental Collector” Portland Tribune (21 Jun ::2005)66.108.21.54 00:12, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

The article is here and does mention him, but only in passing. Gamaliel 00:24, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Here are a few more articles mentioning Oman - I don't have a complete list, but I'm working on it. The Portland art scene has really exploded and I'm trying to document the key players. Next will be Jeff Jahn, Jane Beebe, William Jameson (just had a park named after him), Miranda July (whose new film "Me, You and Everyone We Know" is taking the country by storm), Harrel Fletcher, etc..

Daniel Duford, “Core Sampler” The Organ (Nov Dec 2003)

Richard Speer, “First Impressions” Willamette Week (12 Nov 2003) D.K. Row, “Shows of Note” The Oregonian (7 Nov 2003) Jeff Jahn, “Core Sample” nwdrizzle.com (Nov 2003) Jeff Jahn, “A Completely Biased History…” nwdrizzle.com (Oct 2003) Jeff Jahn, curator, “The Best Coast” Exhibition Catalogue (Portland 2003) Michael Klein, curator of the Microsoft Collection, “Art for Life” Exhibition Catalogue (Portland 2003) Jeff Jahn, “Something to Prove”, Modern Painters (Spring 2003) Stuart Horodner, curator, “Bid” Exhibition Catalogue (Portland 2003) D.K. Row, “Making a Name, Paying the Rent” The Oregonian (24 Jan 2003) Jeff Jahn, “Potential Hullabaloo in 2003?” nwdrizzle.com (Jan 2003) Richard Speer, “First (Thursday) Impressions” Willamette Week (9 Oct 2002) Jeff Jahn, “History Surprise and Risk” nwdrizzle.com (Jul 2002) Ed. Staff, “Best of Portland” Willamette Week (24 Jul 2002) Karrin Ellertson, “Seeking An Alternative” A&E The Oregonian (7 Jul 2000) Karrin Ellertson, “Clean Art Review” Portland Mercury (Dec 2000) Lisa Lambert, “Art Review: Clean” Willamette Week (Dec 2000)

• Strong Keep This sort of article is the kind of rare bit of information on a relatively obscure contemporary artist that is SO helpful and one of the reasons I always check wiki when I can't find something elsewhere. If Wiki just had what you can find everywhere it wouldn't be useful. Having said that, the article is in shambles, it needs a re-write desperately. 151.202.8.52 04:43, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• I tried editing this a bit. Hope that helped.151.202.8.52 05:30, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Interesting thing - I realized while editing this that I throw the word vanity around a lot but haven't read the definition for a while. For example - wiki definition of vanity page says: "vanity by itself is not a basis for deletion, but lack of importance is". This is a tough one - what establishes importance? For example, I just noticed Richard Tuttle doesn't even have a page, he's having a retrospective at the SFMOMA right now and is probably one of the most influential artists at the moment. Just my few cents. 151.202.8.52 05:41, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• GREAT point! I found today that Gamaliel started a Tuttle article and I added to it. I hope you'll add to it as well. Richard Tuttle

66.108.21.54 20:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep This article doesn't appear to meet any of the critereon for deletion: It is not "original research" (sources check out), it is not an "inappropriate user page" (not a user page), it is not a "vanity page" (sources check out, wide press coverage - though provincial), it is not "advertising" (nothing for sale or promotion), it is not a "Hoax" (sources check out), it is not "idiosyncratic"(seems to not be structural or behavioral characteristic peculiar to an individual or group.) Although, article does contain source text, perhaps that quoted text should be removed?68.174.126.204 03:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

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