Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metrified English unit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete. The page is a redirect that resulted from a page move, nominated by the editor that moved it. I've speedily deleted this on two grounds: The author and sole editor of the page has nominated it for deletion, so if the redirect is a bad name it qualifies for speedy deletion. If the redirect isn't a mistake, but rather the page move was, the subsequent edits by the editor who did the move prevent other editors from reverting the mistake, and deleting the edited redirect lets ordinary editors sort this out at their leisure without need for administrator intervention.

This is articles for deletion, by the way. Don't bring redirects here. Redirects are discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Uncle G 14:23, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metrified English unit

Until 12 Oct 06 Metrified English unit consisted of three parts. The first part appeared to be original research. It was removed. The last part was merged to Approximate conversion between English and metric units. This left only the second part. What remained was moved to Plan for Establishing Uniformity in the Coinage, Weights, and Measures of the United States. The reasons for this are outlined on that article's Talk page. Also discussed there is the fact that the old title Metrified English unit was inadequate. Metrification refers to the adoption of the metric system not to the creation of a new system. Jimp 06:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Part one concerned a so-called "Royal System". It was claimed that this system had been proposed in the 1820s. This system supposedly retained traditional English names for units but gave them values in simple ratios to metric units. Part one appeared to be original research and was removed for lack of references.

Part two concerned proposals by Thomas Jefferson. This part was kept.

Part three was merged to Approximate conversion between English and metric units.

What remained therefore was the proposals by Jefferson. This was moved to Plan for Establishing Uniformity in the Coinage, Weights, and Measures of the United States.

The reasons for this are outlined on that article's Talk page.

Thus Metrified English unit became a redirect here. However, Jefferson's plan has nothing to do with the metrification. Therefore it makes little sense to keep Metrified English unit as a redirect to this article.

Indeed, to metrify is to convert to the metric system. An English unit cannot be metrified. The title Metrified English unit never made sense. So there really is no point in keeping this as a redirect anywhere.

The same arguement applies to Metrified Imperial unit Metrified Imperial system and I'll be listing that for deletion too. Jimp 07:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I have listed Metrified Imperial system. This is an even worse redirect because not only does the Jefferson plan have nothing to do with metrification but it has nothing to do with the imperial system either. Jimp 07:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per Jimp. This is terminology created by Wikipedia, not taken from the real world. It is both unnecessary and misleading as a redirect; it never had any links from any wikipedia articles not dealing with units of weights and measures as the subject; it isn't something anybody would link to from a history article or a geography article or a science article, and the redirect doesn't fit the article to which it redirects. Gene Nygaard 11:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.