Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melbourne University Labor Club

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 02:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Melbourne University Labor Club

Self promoting, unencyclopaediac material, unverifiable, not notable. Overall factions are dealt with in National_Union_of_Students_of_Australia. Individual clubs are not notable, and unless we want wikipedia to turn into a Soapbox for every faction/faction/student politician in existence. Perhaps information on this club should be merged into the Student Unity page, and therefore into the whole structure about student politics in Australia. There is no reason why this, or any other campus club, should have a wiki presence. They have their own websites that can be linked from the faction they support or are part of Petrol pyro 02:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Longhair\^talk 02:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per non which is well stated. Could be a merge to the university entry at best.TheRanger 05:04, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. It seems to be a long standing club of the left and I have found some sources. This from a review of "Free Radicals: On the Left in Postwar Melbourne" from a review in the Australian in 2003. "Turner and Gott were well-established leaders of the Left when I began my course in pure history and all of us were keen supporters of the lively student Labour Club. In this heyday of the Left, the club probably commanded some 800 members out of a total student enrolment of 8000. Ostensibly, the club was broad church -- hospitable to anyone left of centre. Many belonged also to the Student Christian Movement." A Google News Archive finds a reference in a biography of Gott see [1] Google Scholar comes up with further references see [2]. It seems to have been a notable organisation in postwar Melbourne politicl life. Capitalistroadster 06:20, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep as per Capitalistroadster. Can someone check whether any notable politicians or other figures were members of this club? (JROBBO 07:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC))

Delete If this club is such a notable body in postwar Australian politics, the page should reflect this and not simply be a promotional page for the body. Hence controversies, and somewhat more of the wider history of the club should be on the page. This page just promotes the club today and provides no historical background. I also don't feel that a single mention in an article about a famous activist makes something noteworthy; a current google news serach finds nothing. A google web search [3] lists the wiki article as number two. Other hits involve other user contributed pages such as answers.com, with some having their neutrality disputed. At best it this is a dubious inclusion that probably should be brought into the Melbourne University Student Union page, at worst a conceited attempt by a group at self promotion through wiki abuse. --Petrol pyro 09:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

• Deleteper above. MER-C 11:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Petrol Pyro. Montco 01:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Petrol Pyro. --AAA! 01:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Keep i will make edits to make it more appropriate and less promotional 210.15.213.194 04:10, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

• Consider Melbourne University ALP Club DURABLE CHIMNEY 05:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Major political club at major university. Substantial historic documentation exists. --Centauri 14:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Delete or complete rewrite. There is little evidence of club history on the current page, unlike the Melbourne University ALP Club (which seems dubious as well, and probably warrents attention). The current page is simply promotional of the club today.--130.194.13.106 05:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete The "history" referred to above seems to that of the older Melbourne University ALP Club, assuming that is the older one. Given the historical content on the [Melbourne University ALP Club]] wiki page, it would seem this is only promotional. This is not to say that the other club page should be cleaned up and made NPOV compliant, but this one has no redeeming value it seems. --Mcjaf

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