Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melanie Craft
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The result was keep. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 19:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Melanie Craft
If her major notability is as the wife of somebody, then she isn't notable enough for her own article. User:Zoe|(talk) 03:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep and clean-up. 29,000 exact Google matches, many about this Melanie Craft. Michael 03:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- And do those Google hits give any idea of notability? User:Zoe|(talk) 03:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, they do. The article is wrong. She is not most famous for being Ellison's wife; she's famous (to a certain segment of readers) for her books. I suspect this article was written by a computer type, unlikely to be familiar with the genre at all. Scrolling through the google results with "Larry Ellison" excluded ([1]) finds a lot ofreferences to her books. (There are a lot of forums about romance novels.) No Barbara Cartland: two Silhouette Romances and two mass-markets, from what I can see, but that passes the standards for authors at WP:BIO. Needs definite clean-up and expansion by a romance reader. Fan-1967 03:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, most don't even reference who her husband is. Several sites says, "Melanie Craft and her husband live in..." Michael 07:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well that's because that particular search excluded any hits with the words "Larry Ellison". There are thousands of hits that include his name, but as you can see tons that don't. I suspect much of the romance-reading crowd are as unaware of Ellison as the geeks are unaware of her. Fan-1967 08:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, she is famous in her own right. Michael 08:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Well that's because that particular search excluded any hits with the words "Larry Ellison". There are thousands of hits that include his name, but as you can see tons that don't. I suspect much of the romance-reading crowd are as unaware of Ellison as the geeks are unaware of her. Fan-1967 08:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- And do those Google hits give any idea of notability? User:Zoe|(talk) 03:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, I added some bio details and removed the POV about her marriage. Published authors are generally notable. --Dhartung | Talk 18:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Her books have been independently reviewed and appear to sell in respectable numbers per Amazon. Ohconfucius 03:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep published, non-vanity press authors. --badlydrawnjeff talk 15:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep after update clearly demonstrates notability. Fan-1967 00:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. This person is notable as a published author, not for being the wife of one of the most powerful men in the world. RFerreira 19:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
