Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Ward

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The result of the nomination was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Max Ward

Actually a band, not a person; see their MySpace page [1], which is the only Ghit I found; would have speedied but article (falsely) claims notability. NawlinWiki 18:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• max ward is a person the band was named after him —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sergi o (talk • contribs). (the article author) NawlinWiki 19:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • OK, he's a person -- but the band (and the person) are not notable. See WP:MUSIC. NawlinWiki 19:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• delete unless the notability claims can be verified. They seem unlikely. — brighterorange (talk) 19:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. The article needs a lot of work, but Max Ward is an extremely influential and notable presence in music. I will add further comment on this AfD once I have edited the article to reflect that. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 19:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country,[1] reported in notable and verifiable sources, Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable), Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media, and Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city. I have wrote a bit about the individual for this article, but left plenty of room for expansion. Anybody can expand an article, and it's a much more constructive measure than putting something up for deletion just because you don't know about it. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 22:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep definitely notable. 17000 hits, and i've heard of him before. Themindset 20:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment To be fair, those aren't all THIS Max. Searching "Max Ward" + "625" or "band" or "music", depending on the search, only yields 500-1000 hits. Still, enough of them fit the criteria above for notability and reliability. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 20:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete I think this may be one case where his label is notable, some of the bands he has played with are notable but individually he is not. That would not stop him from being mentioned in many other places. I don't think he needs his own page. A section on him in 625 thrashcore records might be most appropriate being the founder and all.--Nick Y. 20:42, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
  • As a member of more than a few notable bands, and a notable promoter and record label owner, I find him very notable for his own profile (comparable, perhaps, to Ian MacKaye?). PT ^(s-s-s-s) 20:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment - I would like to believe that comparision however, I don't. Minor Threat and Fugazi are much more notable and influential bands. He has worked with many more very notable musicians. Not to mention that he is credited with starting the fairly influential straight-edge movement. And has been writing performing, touring for over 25 years. Really no comparasion.--Nick Y. 23:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep seems notable alright. Needs a cleanup tho. Spearhead 21:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per PT's clean-up. — Reinyday, 15:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment This appears to be a different Max Ward than the one that I was looking for when I clicked on the link from the article about Wardair (I was expecting to read about the Canadian businessman who started the airline) . Perhaps this needs disambiguation? --Curtis 15:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.