Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matthew Hilger

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 00:36, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

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This page is laced with spam advertising Matthew Hilger's book on Texas Hold 'em and his for-profit website.

Strong Keep: Matthew Hilger's site is not just for profit. It contains numerous strategy articles and forums for amateur and professional players, equal in value to those at Card Player, The Hendon Mob's site, 2+2, etc. He is also a notable and respected poker player/author in his own right, with tournament results exceeding those listed in the article, and his limit cash game theories are a major component of the way internet play has progressed. If there are issues with him being an author, then this is attributable to David Sklansky, Mason Malmuth and others. There is no spam here, merely a link to his own official website and the ISBN number of his book. Furthermore, many other poker players (Daniel Negreanu, Dave Ulliott, The Hendon Mob etc.) have for-profit websites. I feel the only issue with the page could be the line about when he eliminated Doyle Brunson from the WSOP - if you have an issue with that, then please use the talk page first, rather than putting the page up for deletion. Also, please sign your name when putting articles up for deletion. One more thing, as the user who AFD'd this article did not add this page to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2005 December 22 I can only assume that the person may be misinformed about AFD criteria. Essexmutant 22:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Book available through Amazon and Hilger won a NZ poker championship. -- JJay 14:08, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

• weak keep -- If his total winnings are only $125,000 it might indicate that his theories aren't great. Needs de-advertising though MNewnham 16:48, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
  • comment - in fairness, as stated in the article, the figures are only for live tournaments (as is common with the majority of other articles at Category:Poker players.) Hilger, despite playing several live tournaments plays internet poker most of the time and that is where his strategy book is based. The amount of winnings is also more than some more well-known players, including Mike Caro at just $15,130 ref. Essexmutant 16:52, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
• keep published book, website, many google results -- Astrokey44|talk 02:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Ridiculous nomination. Well known author, successful player. 2005 02:34, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep --Alf ^melmac 09:27, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.