Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matball

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The result was no consensus. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 13:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matball

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Speedy deletion (CSD A7) overturned at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 11, with a consensus to list here. Procedural nomination stemming from the DRV close, so I abstain. Daniel Bryant 11:12, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, possibly with cleanup, I don't know if we need all the rules but the game itself can certainly be sourced. I've added some sources to the article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 11:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete I see no evidence that this is anything other than a local variant name for a generic form of gymnasium game. Guy (Help!) 13:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
  • One reference is from Syracuse, the other is from Welligton, Ohio. Sancho (talk) 16:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep it is now sourced, though marginally. I would feel stronger about it if it were more than two regional newspaper articles,( though from different regions)DGG 04:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - There is not sufficient source material to include an attributed, encyclopedic article about the topic. Here's some research that I posted at DRV: (i) Baldrige, Susan. (May 25, 2001) Lancaster New Era Game over Worried about kids' safety and self-esteem, schools shunning dodge ball and other playground favorites. Page 1. (writing, " "The kickball we play is not exactly kickball," explained Jerry McDonald, phys ed instructor at Warwick's John Bonfield Elementary. "It's matball. They run around four mats to score. It's for safety. If they slide into a base, someone could fall down. The ball we use is made out of blue rubber, and they are only allowed to throw at the legs." "We play kickball by softball rules, where you can't throw at a person," Ruth explained.") (ii) The Post-Standard (September 21, 2006) Pupils in grades 7 to 9 invited to play matball. Section: Local; Page B1. -- Jreferee 05:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep We played this game when I was in middle school but we called it "Big Base", so it is not just something local as it was in Minnesota. It should be included, mabye possibly be merged into kickball.--E tac 09:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Looks like there's enough to sustain an article. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:49, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Non-notable game, WP:NOT a game guide —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChrisGriswold (talk • contribs) 05:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

• Comment Really then what do you make of Kickball, Hockey, Four square, American football, Baseball, Cricket, Croquet etc... The article should be kept or at the very least be merged. --E tac 01:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete or merge-and-redirect. I also do not see enough source material to support an independent article. The evidence so far shows this as a minor variation. Rossami (talk) 05:40, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep- per Badlydrawnjeff. FireSpike 20:06, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Matball was also played at Depew High School in Depew, NY. Notable game -- as is evident by its use in schools across the country. Molmdaw 15:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)molmdaw

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