Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Dolan

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The result of the debate was keep. Deathphoenix 16:45, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Margaret Dolan

Wikipedia is not the Guinness Book of Records. Radiant! 13:19, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Not notable. -R. fiend 16:06, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect as below. Delete. She slips under my bar of notability by quite a bit, I fear. HyperZonk^talk 16:50, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into the National longevity recordholders page. I can see no reason why Wikipedia shouldn't include information comparable to the Guinness Book of Records. It's all notable. — RJH 17:29, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Because most if it is trivia, and that's the opposite of notability. I think that many Guinness entries deserve a note in the appropriate article, but few of them deserve entries of their own. Radiant! 19:42, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
    • I can see a case for consolidation for certain notable facts of this nature, rather than deletion to save a few electrons. RJH 18:32, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I have merged this, do we want a delete or a redirect? HyperZonk^talk 17:54, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
    • Redirect would be appropriate, I'd say. Radiant! 19:42, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect works for me. DaveTheRed 03:13, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to National longevity recordholders. Keep. Megan1967 03:16, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep—the oldest known person in a country's history, if that's what this woman is, is inherently notable in her own right. Everyking 04:23, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I think this is also very notable. If Wikipedia is not the Guinness Book of Records, we might as well delete Robert Wadlow, too. Mike H 04:25, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Antandrus 04:29, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• (Keep or merge), since it's been merged may as well just redirect Kappa 11:05, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect, but only as a formality - I suspect that no-one will ever search for 'Margaret Dolan'; rather, they will search for 'oldest woman' or something along those lines. The Guiness Book of Records-style categorised organisational structure isn't very compatible with Wikipedia's atom-based approach. More pertinently, was she Ireland's oldest woman? These four links [1] [2] [3] [4] seem to be the only ones that mention her, and the third (posted in 2003, which mentions her having her 111th birthday on 'Wednesday 28th') suggests that she was actually 112 when she died. Are there pictures, more reputable sources, a photograph of the grave, something actually from the Guiness Book of Records? -Ashley Pomeroy 17:53, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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