Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mama Zogbé

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Bobet 17:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mama Zogbé

Article was prod'ed by I do not exist. The creator of the article, Mwhs has made some rather questionable edits to several articles, but seems to be contributing in what he or she assumes to be good faith. I'm not sure if he or she is still following Wikipedia. In order to be fair to Mwhs, I have moved the nomination for deletion here to get a wider range of input. In addition to I do not exist's reasoning below, "Vivian Hunter-Hindrew" (her original name) -wikipedia gets 13 unique Google hits; -wikipedia -mamiwata.com (her personal website) gets 9 unique hits. Neither name gets any Google Books hits, though "mamiwata.com" gets 6. Below is I do not exist's original prod reasoning. (No vote.) BrianSmithson 22:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

nn, 82 google hits, 45 for "Mama Zogbé" -Wikipedia, 10 for "Mama Zogbé" -Wikipedia -mamiwata.com (which seems to be her own website)

• Delete This is, we have every reason to believe, is either an autobiography or a vanity article by a close associate of the subject. The only relevant criteria of WP:BIO appears to be the first: "The person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field." The contribution being the posisble introduction of the Mami Wata new religious movement to the U.S. If it is widely recognized, where are the external sources? At any rate, there are no references to independent reliable sources in the article to provide supporting evidence for any assertion of notability. GRBerry 01:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, but open to changing if information can be verified from reliable sources. AfD is always a little hard for topics outside first world English-speaking countries. She appears to have been interviewed once, with the material used in a couple of other places [1] [2]. Amazon has her as the author of an out-of-print book, probably self-published, and certainly with no mainstream reviews that Google can turn up. On balance, I'd say the article fails to meet WP:BIO, but I'd welcome proof that I'm wrong. William Pietri 01:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Dude, she's an American. Last time I checked, America was still a first world English-speaking country. ;-) - ∅ (∅), 03:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
    • My mistake. Thanks for catching it. That'll teach me to read more carefully. Given that, I'm a firm delete.William Pietri 03:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per my prod. - ∅ (∅), 13:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Tried my hand at a little cleanup and npoving, added the {{unsourced}} tag, not that I think any sources are going to show up. - ∅ (∅), 03:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of religion-related deletions. -- GRBerry 02:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• I'm inclined to say Keep, especially given "Mama Zogbé’s organization ... is responsible for petitioning and winning approval by the Library of Congress to change the classification of books written on African Religions from their previous labeling of "cults", to “African Religions”." That's a pretty significant contribution (not that it should have been necessary, but that's another issue).

Septegram 13:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.