Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malachi Barrie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 06:10, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malachi Barrie

Reposting of deleted material; non-notable or hoax SigPig 05:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• Reposting of deleted material is a speediable offense under WP:CSD G4. Royboycrashfan 05:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

OK. So how do I do this? Do I withdraw the AfD then request a speedy, or do I leave the current ball rolling and wait for a consensus or a wandering admin to drop by and delete? I've never done this before (but vandalizing the Arlington Nat'l Cemetery page just put me over the top...) SigPig 15:54, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete as re-creation of deleted material, unless verfiable sources can be provided to argue for inclusion. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 06:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
  • This shouldn't be speedied, based on new information, but I can't find any solid information showing that Malachi Barrie is notable and not a hoax. — Rebelguys2 ^talk 01:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per above; reposting of deleted material Not sure about this because of Zoe's new info, no vote --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 07:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

* Speedy delete repost must die In light of Zoe's information, Weak Keep.⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 10:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete, recreated previously deleted material. --Terence Ong 14:03, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
• Do not speedy. The only deleted revision I can see is completely different. For the benefit of those who can't see deleted pages it reads "Grew up in Germany, jewish writer Malachi Barrie was taken to Auschwitz, and died. In Guinness Book of World Records 1942, for: Fattest Man in the World." [1] No vote on notability of current article, sources would be nice. the wub "?!" 15:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

How does one look at the previous article? I'm not an admin. SigPig 16:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Only admins can view deleted revisions. However, the quote that User:the wub wrote in his vote is "exactly" what the previous version looked like. Pepsidrinka 22:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Keep- The very original was deleted because it was a hoax. This one looks legitamite.

Comment. This particular unsigned comment was inserted by User:69.24.189.229[2] most of whose edits seem to be mostly vandalism, even to user pages. Also there seems to be some connection between this anonymous user and Amaas120; see [3] SigPig 02:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Google returns no (non-Wikipedia derived) hits for "Malachi Noble Barrie", "Malachi Barrie". There was a "Malachi Favors" who played with Ray Charles, but that's not the same person. I strongly suspect a hoax: its highly unlikely that anyone who played with Ray Charles returns zero GHits. Gwernol 21:42, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: The previously-deleted version said, Grew up in Germany, jewish writer Malachi Barrie was taken to Auschwitz, and died. In Guinness Book of World Records 1942, for: Fattest Man in the World.. This is not the same person. Please discuss based on the current content. Not a vote. User:Zoe|^(talk) 22:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment true, but note that the replacement article appears to be a hoax as well - I was unable to locate any mention of a musician called Malachi Barrie through Google. Just because the hoax is different does not make it any less of one. Gwernol 01:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete, transparent hoax. Rumors that his father died in "a freak reed-moistening accident"? Ray Charles (who didn't own a record label) gave him a recording contract? I don't think this "saxaphone" player ever saw the inside of a "rehabatation" facility, or that his father was "diognosed" with chewing tobacco-related cancer. Mostly because none of them ever existed. Monicasdude 22:48, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I refer everyone to [4], which also mentions the "reed-moistening incident", which is what (incorrectly) twigged me on to this as being a copy. SigPig 02:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. 0 google hits for a "notable 70s musician" suggest a hoax. Batmanand | Talk 21:48, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Hoax, no Alexa, no googles, fails WP:MUSIC. I can see the previously deleted article and this is not the same.--Dakota ~ ° 03:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.