Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahavishnu Gautama

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 19:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mahavishnu Gautama

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I am really not sure about this one. It may be a very legitimate article. However, it seems to be wildly (fanatically, even) POV, and I think it COULD be a recreation of something, judging by the creation comment of the author. Also, the author is a suspected sockpuppet. Very unsure what is to be done about it. J Milburn 20:34, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - it's not at all clear what the article is trying to say, or what the content has to do with the title. I admit I don't know anything much about Buddhism or Hinduism, so there might be some validity to the content that I wasn't aware of. However, it looks to me like speedy delete under CSD G1 (nonsense). Walton monarchist89 20:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
• Without doubt Speedy Delete. This is a mischievious attempt to recreate the POVFORK Buddha From a Hindu Perspective, now a redirect to Buddha as an Avatar of Vishnu. The creator, before using the name User:Maleabroad, is a fanatic pov-pusher, who quite often attempts to recreate deleted articles.--Aldux 22:11, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete. This article also bears a great deal of resemblance to a recently deleted one (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brahmin Contributions to Other Religions, created by the same user for much the same reason), so the debate there has relevance to this one. Orpheus 00:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  16:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hindus are entitled to their own beliefs! This whole argment started when Hindu articles kept getting deleted. Hindus are not allowed to post their views on Wikipedia because they will only be deleted reguardless of any so-called "discussions."—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.159.32.179 (talk • contribs).

The deletion proposition was issued by vandals who are very racist. they do not want Hindus to show their viewpoint. First vandals would not permit Hindus to post their viewpoints on the Gautama page so I designed the Buddha as an Avatar of Vishnu page and even the Hindu viewpoints in that were mostly deleted. Now this is proposed for deletion. Then where should Hindus post their viewpoints? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HinduDefender (talk • contribs).

• Keep - Seems to be well sourced with reliable sources.Bakaman 00:46, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
• Comment: It isn't that well sourced, especially for such a controversial topic. Not only that, should they be the same sources as were in the original article, then many agreed in the last debate that they were biased. J Milburn 16:21, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 12:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete A number of editors contributing to this discussion appear to be missing the point. Wikipedia is not the place for ANYONE - be they Hindu, Buddhist or of any other faith - to post their points of view. This is an encyclopedia, not a debating chamber, and wiki policy is that articles shall not express points of view, save only by second-hand attribution.--Anthony.bradbury 17:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete Per Orpheus, Aldux and Anthony. Created by sock of blocked-pov pusher. Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:24, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Quote: "Wikipedia is not the place for ANYONE - be they Hindu, Buddhist or of any other faith - to post their points of view. This is an encyclopedia, not a debating chamber, and wiki policy is that articles shall not express points of view, save only by second-hand attribution." Response: Yes, indeed it is an encyclopedia and because the topic is Lord Buddha from the Hindu viewpoint, it should be recorded in the encyclopedia rather than being deleted just because some fools want to hide Hindu viewpoints about Lord Buddha from the world.

The Buddha talked about the Sanatan Dharam and the Arya Dharam and Nirvan. Do you neo-Buddhists have any explainations for that?

This article has to remain to educate people on the Hindu Buddha!

• The above unsigned comments were added by 136.159.32.177

Comment: We are not here to debate the nature of Buddha. We are here to decide whether this article should be deleted. J Milburn 16:52, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. An argument on the place of Buddha in Hinduism may have a place somewhere. However, this article, pushing its own POV starting with the unjustified name, is just propaganda. Imc 18:31, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

• • Comment. That "somewhere", specifically, is Buddha as an Avatar of Vishnu, where all the POV nonsense has been painstakingly edited out by some very hard-working editors and replaced with good scholarly material. The quality of that article is, in my opinion, the strongest argument for deleting this one. Orpheus 00:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.