Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lotusland

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Deathphoenix ʕ 20:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lotusland

This page more or less copies the content from a copyrighted Web site; see http://www.lotusland.org/gardens/cycad.htm and the sidebar on the left. The subject itself isn't a bad idea for an article, but the garden by the name "lotusland" does not appear to be notable. The term itself goes back to the "Odyssey". modify 07:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep for now. I've yet to see a non-notable botanical garden, so I see no problem with the article title. It's the name of the place, why not use it? I also quickly scoured the site but couldn't find anything that even remotely resembled the article. Could you please be more specific about the supposed copyright violation? - Mgm|^(talk) 08:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

It can be hard to spot at first because the Web site has more text than the article. On the page, there's the bold heading "Bromeliads" and the text "Other notable plants include a branched pygmy date palm (Phoenix roebelinii), Trithrinax brasiliensis palms and giant ponytail palms (Beaucarnea recurvata)." On the Web site, at http://www.lotusland.org/gardens/brom.htm (with the title "Bromeliad Garden"), there's the text "Other notable plants in the garden include a branched pygmy date palm (Phoenix roebelinii) and Trithrinax brasiliensis palms. The garden is bordered by a planting of giant pony tail palms (Beaucarnea recurvata)." On the page, under "Cactus garden", there's the text "Notable specimens include species of Opuntia from the Galapagos Islands, Armatocereus from Peru and a complete collection of the genus Weberbauerocereus." On the Web site, at http://www.lotusland.org/gardens/cactusgdn.html ("Cactus Garden"), there's the text "Notable specimens include species of Opuntia endemic to the Galapagos Islands, several blue, sculptural species of Armatocereus from Peru, and a complete collection of the genus Weberbauerocereus." I haven't looked under each heading of the article, but given the similarity between the headings and the titles of the pages on the Web site, it seems likely that there is more copied text as well. modify 11:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Consider renaming to Ganna Walska Lotusland, which appears on the website navbar, or similar. There does seem to be persistent lifting of scattered sentences and phrases from the website, but mostly it's fairly generic lists which a few minor edits could reword sufficiently not to be a problem. Espresso Addict 03:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.