Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of law firms

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. W.marsh 21:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of law firms

I believe this page is just inviting abuse. According to the talk page, most of the firms listed are less than notable. Ewlyahoocom 09:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep. Just because a page may be abused does not mean it should be deleted (if so, George Bush would be gone). I don't think this page even falls under any of the categories that warrant deletion. As long as we are vigilant (and keep external links off the page, we will be okay. --Nelson Ricardo 15:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Should we have a List of Farscape episodes, but no list of prominent law firms? Which is really more relevant? - Reaverdrop 01:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• keep - even the article Jerusalem is full of abuse (as can beseen from the talk page)
• keep the UK ones are all OK, so I imagine the other ones are all real too. Tim | meep in my general direction 23:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
  • no mention of Convey Direct in the UK list - but then it seems that "notable" equates to "corporate law", and is therefore highly subjective. Convey Direct is a notable firm in the conveyancing world in the UK. And should the listing be UK or should it be England and Wales and Scotland since there are different legal systems in each, and the criteria for "notability" could also be different Rhyddfrydol 00:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
• Note this listing was orphaned; only added to daily list on 10 February 2006 Tim | meep in my general direction 23:52, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
• Move to List of prominent law firms, to keep the non-notable ones there now out. --Rory096 07:20, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • sorry please define the difference between "notable" and "non-notable". What is notable to one person, could be seen as not notable to another. Notability in this list cannot be verified, and therefore the list should not appear in Wikipedia. Rhyddfrydol 00:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
• Delete redundant to a category and an invitation to create articles on more nn law-firms. Stifle 00:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, a category would leave users guessing which country firms belonged too. Kappa 09:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Kappa. -- JJay 19:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete per nom. This list makes verification almost impossible, considering the vast kinds of firms there are. It claims that it's a list of 'notable firms.' Yeah, right. What makes any of the redlinks unnotable? How can anyone tell if a redlink is notable or not? I suggest we split this list up into sublists, including corporate law firms, tax law firms, entertainment law firms, etc. I am in shock that this list includes fictional law firms as well. That clearly should be its own article or part of a different article. This section exemplifies how the entire list could just be fictional. -- Wikipedical 23:31, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - I work for a law firm - should I add my firm to this list? Retorical question ... the answer is no! Strong Delete there is no room for lists which could easily extend into the thousands on Wikipedia. Is a law firm which employs 30 members of staff in Niue more or less notable than a law firm which employs 3000 members of staff in Newark? As a percentage of population the one in Niue could be concieved as being more notable - but then why not list a law firm which employs 30 members of staff in Newark. I reiterate Strong Delete Rhyddfrydol 23:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Please consider adding your firm to the list if it passes WP:CORP. Kappa 00:01, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes my law firm passes WP:CORP - there would be very few law firms in the major cities of the world that do not. Rhyddfrydol 00:24, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - I have just checked this list of "notable" law firms. It includes 7 law firms in Seven Sisters in Canada. Is Seven Sisters a new state? Forgive my ignorance but I have never heard of Seven Sisters. Is a law firm in Seven Sisters more or less notable than a law firm in Six Sisters? I'm sorry Kappa - nice try, but notability is too subjective a term to be defined in this way. I refer back to my comment about a law firm in Niue. Does notability include dealing with all the conveyancing transactions in any given place? Or are we talking number of fee-earners? Or are we talking about number of law suits they act on? Or are we talking about fee income? There must be millions and millions of law firms worldwide, each are notable in their own way - do we want a list of ALL these law firms on Wikipedia??? The more I look at this the more I must conclude this should be a Strong Delete Rhyddfrydol 00:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: We know where you stand. Could you please put just one of your strong deletes in bold. Thank you. -- JJay 00:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.