Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Left Stalinism

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete (1k, 4d, 1 merge). The comments in support of deletion were instrumental to this decision. Mindmatrix 18:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Left Stalinism

Article relates to a concept which has no independent existance outside wikipedia. It wrongly labels the "official communist movement" as Stalinist (which is not a NPOV description) and only identifies one group as belonging to this proposed tendency, CPGB(PCC). To label CPGB(PCC), a group which I otherwise have very limited sympathy for, as "left stalinist" is of course little else than simple smearing. Also it should be noted that the term "revionist" is highly POV in a Marxist context. --Soman 08:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Great reasons already given in nomination; there is inded no such thing as Left Stalinism anywhere outside of that article. Flyboy Will 09:11, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Left Communism as requested in article. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 10:02, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment: But Left Communism is something completly different. No part of the text material in the Left Stalinism fits in the Left Communism article. --Soman 10:11, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Is it? I thought that Stalinism was an interpretation of Communism. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 04:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Left Communism as a political term is not the same as the leftwing within the communist movement. It refers to a specific tendency represented by a specific set of organizations and individuals (KAPD, Bordiga, ICC, etc.). --Soman 09:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Do not merge - is completely different to left communism. The term is obscure, generally considered POV and scarcely used. However, the CPGB(PCC) do use the term to describe their origins in the New Communist Party: "As individuals, we came from 'left Stalinism'. 'The Leninist' was not left-Stalinist, however. That's what we said to you, just to be clear." [1]
• Keep, appears on Google. Could use some citations to published works. Gazpacho 08:34, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment A lot of the hits on google are from wikipedia. Perhaps it should be merged into Stalinism or Left Opposition. --Descendall 11:31, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment, but a major part of the hits are of the type "xxx the Left. Stalinist ...", "pro-left, Stalist ...", etc.. When the term is used as a concept it is only by Trotskyists using it as a pejorative. --Soman 13:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Clarification: When I said "a lot of the hits on google are from wikipedia," I meant that most of the google hits that come up that are actually about Left Communism are just pages that have copied wikipedia's entry word for word. There is very little independent use of the word. If it is true that it is just some secretarian pejoritive, and I assume that you're probably correct, then delete. --Descendall 19:42, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I assum you mean left Stalinism? There are plenty of independent references to left communism. Warofdreams talk 20:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Does not seem to exist. -- JJay 02:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.