Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keron Thomas

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. --Coredesat 22:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Keron Thomas

Keron Thomas (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Non notable, prod tag removed with no justification One Night In Hackney 06:45, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• These past procedural matters are irrelevant to the discussion of AfD. Are you trying to say that the article is guilty of misbehaving? --Kevin Murray 18:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Notable in that the MTA changed several internal policies as a result of this incident and tightened policies of restricted access to crew areas. also the figure is relevant as a teenager with misguided zeal, similar to farris hassan (the teen who left florida for iraq) or mathias rust, who flew a cessna from Finland to Russia in 1987. User:hockeyman001. prod tag removed because article was under edit at time tag was originally applied, article subsequently expanded to current size. citations needed.

• Keep per Hockeyman001; remembered even 10 years on: [1] Kimchi.sg 07:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Notable, BUT this will fall under living biography WP:LIVING, will need to find external sources to verify all the info listed here asap. Especially given that this article states that he was arrested for attempted murder a few years later - without citing any sources. If the article is not fixed by the end of AFD discussion period, delete --Eqdoktor 10:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Sounds like a notable person, but a lot of unsourced statements in the article. I marked it as {{unsourced}} and I think time would be better spent attempting to enhance an article like this rather than make an AfD. Tarinth 17:02, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I took it to AfD after the prod tags were removed (with no edit summary or explanation), as they aren't supposed to be removed until the issues raised have been addressed. I still don't regard this person as notable, he's just a typical "Dead Donkey" filler news story. One Night In Hackney 17:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• These past procedural matters are irrelevant to the discussion of AfD. --Kevin Murray 18:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, but wikify and get more sources and references Alf photoman 17:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep I added a source and clarified the other. We now have a recent NY Times article and a 1993 Associated Press article - this makes two non-trivial accounts. Regardless of the silly aspects, it meet the notability guidelines. --Kevin Murray 18:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - notable enough for a brief mention in a non-paper encyclopedia. CyberAnth 02:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I feel some people are seeing this back to front. The points being put forward are along the lines of "well he was in the newspaper, therefore he's notable", whereas I think his actions weren't very notable in the first place. The only possible part of WP:BIO he comes close to meeting is Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events, such as by being assassinated., and stealing a train seems a long, long way from assassination in my opinion. One Night In Hackney 03:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

  Isn't that taking the guideline a little too rigidly? He's notable enough to be remembered by the media after 10 years. He was mentioned mostly in 1993 for the train thing, again in 1994 for stabbing, and again compared to others in 2003 for his "daredevil-ness". Has survived the "test of time", so to speak. Kimchi.sg 03:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not taking the guideline rigidly at all, in fact I made it clear there was room for manoeuvre. I wouldn't say "remembered by the media" is a particularly accurate statement either, one website of unclear importance doesn't qualify your statement. One Night In Hackney 04:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

If the Gothamist doesn't satisfy, surely the New York Times does. And that's a even more recent article. Kimchi.sg 04:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.