Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keane trivia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 01:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Keane trivia

It's a list of trivia. Delete or Merge with Keane. Geoffrey Spear 00:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOT --Peta 01:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as trivia, and unsourced to boot. -- Whpq 01:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge with Keane. :) Dlohcierekim 01:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOT --T-rex 03:16, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. —Khoikhoi 04:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge: per nom. ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 04:45, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete trivia. Don't bother merging. My Alt Account 09:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 10:04, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unsourced trivia. Thε Halo ^Θ 10:12, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. Lankiveil 12:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC).
• Delete - what may be of value in this should be in Keane, the rest nowhere. BTLizard 12:24, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Keane or delete. --Alex ^{(talk here)} 13:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The information is stored there since it was REMOVED from the Keane article--Fluence 14:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • And it should have been removed, IMVHO. A lot of articles have way too much trivia. My Alt Account 14:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - are we really expected to vote to keep irrelevant useless garbage like They love food, specially cheese.? Good grief....Ac@osr 17:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge (only relevant/sourced trivia) with Keane.--Húsönd 17:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, no Merge it's called "Trivia" for a reason. Danny Lilithborne 17:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or merge heavily trimmed into Keane. Definitely do not keep a separate article only consisting of trivia. JIP | Talk 18:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge relevant info into Keane. Clamster5 23:02, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Protected - Unless you delete The Beatles trivia and Madonna trivia as well, I'll make this article to exist again and again. I'm tired of dealing diplomatically with people--Fluence 23:22, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - Then most likely it will be protected and you will be banned. Most people wouldn't think that was worth it to make a WP:POINT. Geoffrey Spear 02:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment No one likes to see an article they wrote deleted. However, we are all here under the same terms. We are all expected to abide by consensus and policies and guidelines. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web hosting service or personal webpage. Might I suggest getting one of those where you may recreate this article without having to be "diplomatic"? Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 22:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, instead of just putting bullet points of stuff you read on a fansite somewhere, try to work it into the article somehow. If it sounds dumb everywhere you put it, then don't put it anywhere. Recury 23:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and/or merge The information can stay on the main article. And about the other two trivia articles: sure, why not delete them too? --physicq210 05:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as unsourced trivia, and not merge into the keane article. Richyard 07:52, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - trivial even for trivia. Ergative rlt 21:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment Is not about effort to make the article (I wrote it in two minutes) but a loss of information. If the other two are deleted, I won't fight a revert and will find the way to merge it into Keane. (see Richyard's comment; that's why the trivia was separated. Also, is not unsourced. I read that on Q Magazine, Sonika. That are not fansites). And make sure I wouldn't be banned--Fluence 23:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment - Looking at the history of the Keane article, it's fairly clear that you moved the trivia and other sections to their own articles in an attempt to get first Featured Article and more recently Good Article status, and it became clear that violating WP:TRIVIA probably wasn't the best way to achieve either goal. Removing the trivia from the main article certainly made the main article much better, but taking the bad, unencyclopedic information and segregating it into another article with no aspirations of Good Article status isn't the best solution. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, and we shouldn't be concered about "loss of information" as a motivation for keeping something in an article. Geoffrey Spear 13:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

No If you look at the history, the trivia was first merged into the article before losing the CFA status. It was already failed when I created those articles. They were created to protect the information from being lost since this was deleted from the Keane page by Painbearer--Fluence 15:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete; and don't merge either, this article is absolute crap. "None of the four initial members studied for a degree on music."!? The same could be said about the vast majority of bands. You might as well add "None of the four initial members has been raped by a bear." to the list while you're at it. - 195.194.136.252 10:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - Article Members of Keane who've been Raped by a Bear has already been merged to the appropriate individuals. ;-) Ac@osr 16:10, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as is the work of a Fanatic. Single issue fanatics have no place in a evenly-balanced open resource such as this. User Fluence should in all reasonableness be disciplined; though perhaps his love of the music is Keane is punishment enough. He is a bad influence.23:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete because Fluence is clearly insane, and this article is a monument to his insanity that he wants to keep in order to intimidate non-Keane fans.23:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Merge, but shrink amount of content. Markovich292 07:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.