Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Pojman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 11:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James_Pojman

Non-notable bio, borders on adcruft. One hit on Google, and all links point to his business website. --ES2 15:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep Google for Jim Pojman. Books do exist see e.g. %22 James Pojman %22&hl=en&gl=ie&ct=clnk&cd=11 India Woman Photographs Dlyons493 Talk 16:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • The links that come up from the above search are on the author's own page...no mention of these 'books' exist outside of these pages. KsprayDad 13:40, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:BIO. --MaNeMeBasat 10:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable, promotional. OhNoitsJamie^Talk 23:07, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• As the author of the article and in response to one of the above comments I would note that I have no "business website" and photography is not my business; i.e., I do not generate any siginificant income from photography. Jpojman 21:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment A website with the TLD .biz is generally assumed to be a business website. ES2 14:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Note that the ".biz" URLs are merely aliases for longer, less friendly (i.e. less easily remembered) URLs. Jpojman 15:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment The purpose of this article is not self-promotion. Wikipedia has relatively few entries for serious, living photographers. This is an attempt to rectify that a bit. Jpojman 15:50, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete unless notability is stated. Subject appears to be author. M1ss1ontomars2k4 04:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Get a myspace account and put your biography there. Aplomado - UTC 04:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

*Weak Delete, unless someone can verify that his book sold enough copies. -- ReyBrujo 05:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• • Comment As the author of both books, I can verify that most copies were sold or otherwise distributed in India and the United States. Jpojman 12:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Changing my vote to Userfy, since the creator of the article is the main topic of the article. -- ReyBrujo 00:36, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, nn-bio, self-promotion, vanity. --Terence Ong 09:28, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. DarthVader 09:30, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Insufficiently notable. Zaxem 10:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Very few living photographers (and here I mean serious photographers) are "notable" in the sense that their work is available for public viewing and/or comparison to that of other photographers. Jpojman 12:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. We can't list every non-notable photographer in Wiki. Non Encyclopedic. The above comment is nonsense. What defines a 'serious photographer'? Are we going to start having lists of 'serious photographers you have never heard of'? To me this seems like a Vanity page and not a very well written one at that. KsprayDad 13:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The purpose of this article is not to list every photographer, notable or otherwise, but to provide information and links to photographs of one serious, published photographer. A "serious photographer" might be defined as someone who uses photography as a form of artistic expression, as opposed to someone who photographs for the purpose of recording events such as birthdays, weddings, etc. Jpojman 20:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Article claims that he published two books, but neither is listed at Amazon.com, which suggests insufficient notability. --Metropolitan90 17:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment No doubt there are many "notable" books that are not listed on Amazon.com for a variety of legitimate reasons including that they are no longer available (i.e., out-of-print) or of insufficient interest to Amazon.com (i.e., they don't think selling them would be profitable enough to be worth the effort). In this case, both books were published in India (not a major market for Amazon). Also, the books are out-of-print although they are still available in a number of bookstores in India. Jpojman 16:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable; spam. Buchanan-Hermit™..SCREAM!!!.... 23:59, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.