Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Monroe Middle School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Tampa, Florida. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James Monroe Middle School

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Unremarkable middle school, no assertion of notability, very little content. DoorsAjar 01:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep solely because I think consensus a while back was to keep public schools because their government sites were seen as verifiable. gren グレン 02:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • The consensus has only been for high schools, and they don't always make it. I'm personally inclined to support middle school articles that have good information in them. I think there's actually a consensus beginning to form to dump articles that look like this one.Noroton 17:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as is usual for this type of article. (With apologies to Grenavitar, I generally vote to delete middle schools unless they claim to be more than just another middle school, and sometimes even then.) YechielMan 02:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Question This article is obviously a stub. Is it the intention to do away with stubs for school articles--there are a few thousand others. Is it further the intention to do away with stubbs altogether? If not, why should we remove the ones for schools particularly? If wer do vote to delete this one there are many more to go, and I suppose they could best be bnominated county by county (obviously not including the ones that have deveoped articles). DGG 03:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Feel free to nominate any school articles (or any article in general) that isn't notable. Schools are not exempt from this. TJ Spyke 03:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I will automatically support any deletion of a K-8 non-high school [self-edit after seeing DGG's comments below] school article at least a month old and with only a few lines of information in it. They should all go into school district articles. I'm sympathetic to well-meaning editors who are trying to produce good articles and may not know how. But I'm coming around to thinking we should be merciless with the rest. Noroton 17:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC) (self edit as shown above Noroton 13:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC))

If we are to do this, we should do this fairly and in groups, and with consideration for any articles that may have been worked on by the students. In general I support stubs, but for topics such as this where most of the articles will inevitably be stubs,i agree it makes more sense to simply include them in a list until the articles can be written. I'd go for K-9, not just 8.

Delete DGG 23:47, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• I'm fine with stubs, school stubs included, as long as they pass WP:ATT. I have a problem with stubs that do not show notability, regardless of the category. --Butseriouslyfolks 06:12, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete No notability asserted (and, no, schools are NOT inherently notable). This isn't even a directory, just saying where the school is and its school colors? TJ Spyke 03:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and redirect to larger school district. Schools are not inherently notable. WP risks becoming a directory otherwise. —Ocatecir ^Talk 08:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect into school district. It can be spun out when it gets substance beyond stub level. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. -- Noroton 15:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to its respective school district. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 16:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete non notable middle school ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 17:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and let it be restarted when someone has the ability or motivation to create a proper school article. Drop the spoonful of information here into a school district article, if it exists; if not, wave good-bye. Noroton 17:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per above, no assertion of notability, fails WP:ATT. The article itself hasn't been touched in over a year, which tends to shoot down the notion that it's ever likely to be improved. Furthermore, a look at the contribution list of the creator shows the creation of well over a hundred of these stub school articles over the course of two weeks in January and February of 2006, many of which haven't been touched since and which strike me as a likely source of many more AfDs. I don't think we should be carpetbombed with stub articles for every non-notable middle school in the entire Tampa Bay area, myself. RGTraynor 20:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• That's a shame. I really think substubs like that devalue WP. Yes, anybody and everybody can add articles, but does it have to look like it? --Butseriouslyfolks 06:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:ATT or WP:N, whichever way that masturbatory poll is going at the moment. --Butseriouslyfolks 06:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to respective school district (or locality) per WP:LOCAL and school guidelines. Yamaguchi先生 03:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, don't bother merge/redirecting. Fails to make any attempt at establishing notability.--Wizardman 12:41, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to school district or what have you. Saying "don't bother redirecting" defies our longstanding redirection guidelines. Redirects are cheap and exist for a reason, use them. RFerreira 08:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to school district per WP:LOCAL.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 08:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.