Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Hughes (Writer / Director)

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The result was delete. --- Deville (Talk) 18:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Hughes (Writer / Director)

Google shows only a few thousand links, with only a hundred when screenwriter is included. The films listed tend to be stubs and probably not notable. Ricky81682 (talk) 22:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete The films listed are undistributed shorts, most of them not even listed in IMDB. Like thousands of other student/beginning filmmakers, nothing yet of note. Fan-1967 23:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, unfortunately as it is an ok article - but Rotten Tomato dont think he is notable dont think he is notable and that is the second google link for James Hughes Screenwritier; ther first is this article. --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 23:28, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

• Comment There are also articles on each of his short films that also need to be addressed. Fan-1967 01:41, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

• The comment that the Writer is not notable because of the reference on Rotton Tomato dont think he is notable is wrong as this link is for a completely different James Hughes. This link refers to one that only has one credit to his name and no longer works in the film industry. The James Hughes listed on this page is far from being non notable. His website alone gets 100,000 hits every 2 weeks and is has been ten years since he was a beginner/student filmmaker as the earlier reviewer states. In fact James Hughes has been a full member of The Writers Guild and Directors Guild for ten years. He regulary is asked to teach Screenwriting at institutions both here in the UK and America. His latest film as a Director is being produced by the team behind Spiderman II, along with the crew from Terminator 3, Mission Impossible, and Oceans 11. The film in question is currently shooting in Los Angeles and the UK (http://www.thevelvetabstract.com). The credits listed on here are only a handful of James Hughes's credits and all have been produced or are filming. The short films mentioned are both Award winners and one of them was hand picked by a studio in America to show to clients.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Damfino52 (talk • contribs).

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• But if he is this notable why is the top google links his article here and then a link to a completely different non-notable person on Rotten tomatoes?? SUre the website may be popular but that is no measure of notability - he might visit the website 100,000 times a fortnight! Can you provide sources for that info by the way (it is a start at least) and maybe some independant critical analysis of his work? That would define his notability. Errant Tmorton166^(Talk)(Review me) 09:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Your argument that the Rotten Tomatoes link is for someone else doesn't help, as that says that they have nothing to say about him at all. Being a member of the guilds says he's working, not notable. As for a film currently filming, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and there is no way to know whether it will be notable when completed, regardless of who is producing it. The basic problem is that short films are generally not distributed beyond some film festivals, get no notice from the mainstream press, and the overwhelming majority of people will never have the opportunity to see them, or even hear of them. His website doesn't register on Alexa at all, and gets a grand total of 22 google hits ([1]), which makes its popularity unverifiable at best. Fan-1967 13:12, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

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