Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jago (Illustrator)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. I won't object to recreation if evidence is brough towards meeting WP:BIO and avoding WP:AUTO. Yanksox 03:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jago (Illustrator) and Jago Silver

This is a vanity page written by the subject Klacquement 19:02, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• I object to the deletion notice because I don't see what criteria my article meets that would warrant it being deleted. I am an illustrator with several published books, awards and reviews. This is in common with most of the other illustrators on the List_of_illustrators page. Are they all going to be deleted?

  I understand that it would be better if someone else had written the article, but all the information on it is simple fact, I'm not making any claims I can't back up, so the information would be the same if someone else typed it.

  My article will only be found by people browsing the List of illustrators page, who would, presumably be looking for examples of illustrators, unless that page too is to be deleted?. I myself found several interesting illustrator pages with information I hadn't seen before. Is it impossible to believe other might do the same and find my page interesting and informative.

  This was my first foray into Wikipedia and I had thought I would continue to help it expand, sadly I'm not so sure now.

  Jagosilver 19:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• Thank you for replying, I have removed the Biography and Methods sections from the article as I can see they are not encyclopedic enough, or appropriate for Wikipedia.

  However, the information that is left in the article is almost identical in terms of content to Bob Staake's page for example. If my article is still deleted it would seem that the only reason for this would be the name of the user who creates the page. This seems like a very weak basis for a decision to be based on. Presumably the user who created the Bob Staake page could well be Bob himself, or his aunty, as the user in question has not used their real name for a username.

  Therefore is seems that possibly my biggest mistake was creating an honest username that identified me, had I been called "Frodo92" or something, would the article still have been flagged as a vanity project? If this is the case, surely it encourages people to set up anonymous accounts in order to post information about themselves or others which may not be true.

  I look forward to reading your reply, especially on why Bob_Staake's page is viewed differently to mine. Jagosilver 06:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Bob's article has links to pages that aren't written by himself. Klacquement 12:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Although to be fair, out of the six links on his page, three link to other Wikipedia articles, two to his own sites and only one is a secondary source. Jagosilver 19:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Also, how can you be sure that Bob's article wasn't written by Bob? Jagosilver 10:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 11:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• In fairness, then, should the AfD process be extended by a day to account for the delay in discussion? I thought I did all 3 steps, which one did I miss? Klacquement 12:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - not one but two vanity / spam pages on the same day. BTLizard 11:17, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

BT Lizard, please clarify what pages you're referring to? Jagosilver 11:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

My guess would be the two in the header - Jago (Illustrator) and Jago Silver Klacquement 12:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. BTLizard 10:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

My apologies BTLizard I hadn't noticed that the header had changed when I asked the question. I have agreed that the Jago Silver page should be deleted. Jagosilver 10:25, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Klacquement, I've requested that the Jago_Silver page be deleted. I've added sources and references for all parts of the article that I can. By the way, should this discussion be here, or on the talk page of the article in question? (or both??)

• Strong Delete per WP:AUTO. Danny Lilithborne 18:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete both - per above. If an artist has to link to his stuff on Flickr, he's not notable yet. And once he becomes notable, he won't have to write his own article, because someone will do it for him. Just saying. -IceCreamAntisocial 04:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Where's the link to Flickr? Jagosilver 06:28, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. He appears to qualify under "Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work". The article lists several awards and reviews. In children's books, the illustrations can be as important as the text. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 07:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - All the information in this article is verifiable fact and backed up by sources and references, I don't see what's wrong with this? Teapotgeorge 09:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• When will a decision be made regarding whether this page will be deleted? Jagosilver 20:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• It's been 10 days now since this page was marked for deletion, I was under the impression that someone was supposed to have made a decision after 5 days? When can I remove the deletion notice if this page is not being deleted? Jagosilver 11:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.