Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Lyons

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-12-28 13:53Z

[edit] Jacob Lyons

Jacob Lyons (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Although the article does make an assertion of notability and includes a reference, it does not appear that this breakdancer is widely known- main substantiated claim to fame is appearing in the Run DMC video. In my opinion fails WP:N - WJBscribe ^{(WJB talk)} 14:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, possibly speedy. Article is a newspaper or magazine article, and as such fails WP:NOT. It is also a copyvio: [1] Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 14:05, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
  • !Vote struck. WP:NOT and G12 no longer apply after the revision. I'll reread the article asap to assess the notability of the subject. Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 22:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete G12 and tagged as such. MartinDK 16:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
• Very weak keep - Copyright violation has been removed. If he is, as is asserted, a regular judge of competitions, he may qualify as notable on that basis. Move that the article be given thirty days to establish notability, and then revisit the discussion if necessary. Badbilltucker 18:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment As pointed out by the nominator on the talk page of the article the remaining text is still copyvio. The original author was quite clearly warned in bold text like all other editors that copying from other websites will cause the text to be deleted without further notice. Hence the speedy tag stays. MartinDK 18:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
• Neutral I personally don't have a clue whether this guy qualifies as notable or not. I only just found this article on the first day I was doing Dance assessments. The text of the article has been reworded so it isn't a copyright violation any more, I think. I don't really understand copyright that well, though. If someone can produce evidence that he does qualify as notable, they will probably do so. I have mentioned this discussion on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Dance. Maybe someone there will know if he qualifies as notable or not. If he doesn't, I would clearly have no objections to the deletion. Badbilltucker 19:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
  • With the revised text I can't see any clear copyright violation. I have removed the g12 tag as a reviewing admin. Syrthiss 21:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment He basically took the original text and twisted the words around a little bit. That may or may not be copyvio but it is a creative way of trying to avoid deletion due to copyvio. Does this mean that we can copy freely from websites as long as we move the words around a little bit? I seriously doubt that's how anyone else defines copyvio including the law. He did not write the text himself. If he did he should show his sources and we already established long ago that Myspace is not a reliable source of information. MartinDK 09:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• Weak delete after rereading the article. Lyons has worked in notable videos and with notable people, but it does not become clear how that makes him notable, what his role in this was. He seems to have been little more than (with all due respect) an extra. Aecis ^{Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984.} 18:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.