Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infernal Noise Brigade
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. WjBscribe 01:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Infernal Noise Brigade
Notability not established or sourced per WP:MUSIC. There is one published source given (I have no idea of the reliability of the publication), but when I searched for additional sources, all I could turn up was promotional material and blogs. RJASE1 Talk 13:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC) Actually, in light of Zleitzen's sources, I'd like to withdraw the nom. Way more notable than I thought. RJASE1 Talk 14:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I've never heard of these people, but having read the article and done some research I've found it quite interesting and notable whether it meets guidelines or not. This is a strange case and I'm not sure how applicable WP:MUSIC is, flexibility may be preferable. The band seem to be more of a protest organisation than a musical group. Anyway, here are various sources I have dug up:
- Seattle Weekly
- Story about them in the Portland Mercury
- mention in the Scotsman
- mentioned in Red Pepper, a long established British magazine
- are covered in a University of Cardiff paper "Social Movement ‘Frame-work’ during the Prague IMF/WB protests"
- Bizzarely: Picture of the band is used to illustrate University of London’s Institute of Commonwealth Studies handbook MA in Understanding and Securing Human Rights
- I think the international scope of the group gives it some notability. How many bands are covered in a foreign academic paper, and featured on the cover of another? Make of that what you will.-- Zleitzen(talk) 14:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. I see that the nomination has been withdrawn, so I guess this is moot, but one glance at the history would have shown that I had largely created this article. As an established editor, I would certainly have appreciated if, before formally nominating it for deletion, someone had contacted me and said that they felt that my citations did not sufficiently establish notability. I could have done the legwork that Zleitzen just did. (For what it's worth, I felt it was already clearly above the threshold, based on touring internationally and based on their political activities.) Even if you had not noticed me as an author: nominating a longstanding article for deletion without so much as a question on the talk page first is rather drastic. - Jmabel | Talk 18:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
*Delete - no assertion or indication of notability whatsoever - the references listed above are all in the context of a laundry-list of "among people on the demo were...", and no indication they've done anything other than go on a single protest march. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 18:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Excuse me? As the lead paragraph clearly indicates, they were at protests at the WTO Meeting of 1999, the 2000 IMF/World Bank Meeting in Prague, the 2003 WTO Ministerial in Cancún, 2004 United States Republican Party National Convention in New York City,the 31st G8 summit in Scotland, and toured England, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, and Austria. How is that "a single protest march"—unless you are saying that their career counted as a single 7-year protest march. - Jmabel | Talk 18:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- FWIW: Google shows 243 separate mentions on the site of The Stranger, the main paper that chronicles the Seattle scene. For perspective, Harvey Danger, by all accounts a major Seattle band, get 822 mentions - Jmabel | Talk 23:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Change to abstain as it seems they might be notable on the Seattle scene (although a lot of the sources listed above seem a little dubious - I certainly wouldn't count "Red Pepper" magazine, for instance, as any kind of reliable source on anything). - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 16:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.