Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian hip hop

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 13:03, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indian hip hop

Indian hip hop (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Non-notable sub-genre, which has no (or very few) independant notable artists representing it Sfacets 10:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep Ive heard some tracks of these but I just cannot remember any. There is definetly more than is listed however. Jamesbuc
• Weakest of weak keeps, in that it appears to be influential upon another cultural phenomenon (the "Asian Underground" sound). Sourcing this would be of considerable benefit to all concerned, of course. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 12:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep, never listened to Indian hip hop before. But it seems to look quite notable. Hopefully citing some sources will be good. Terence Ong 13:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: notable genre.--Urthogie 14:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as OR if not sourced; I'm worried this is just the assessment of some armchair music critics. Postdlf 20:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

How is it OR to keep an article about the hip hop scene in a major country?--Urthogie 21:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Without sources, it could potentially be (as Postdlf says) "the assessment of some armchair music critics". That's why anything needs to be sourced, to make certain that it's not just my opinion or yours, but something verifiable. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Comment: there are already articles for overlapping genres (like the "Asian Underground".) it is entirely unnecessary to have an entire article on a sub 'genre' that relies on remixes and has very little original content or presece outside filmi and bhangra genres. Sfacets 22:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - I'm not sure to what standard "Non-notable sub-genre" is being applied, but a quick look at American music includes many obscure and niche sub-genres. That said, someone knowledgeable about the genre adding sources would be a great help. --Colage 22:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I understand the concerns because the article is pretty awful and is not really about hip hop musicians from India. However, the fact is that these artists do exist, even if there number and popularity is limited (not that I have been convinced that this is indeed the case). Perhaps the article should be stubified so that it's made clearer that the article should be about hip hop music in India. Pascal.Tesson 01:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The article could definitely do with citations and clean-up, but topically it deserves to be on Wikipedia. It is a very large and growing genre in the Asian subcontinent and I would assign it more to the region as a whole because stylistically it incorporates traditional music from that are and not simply Indian music while maintaining a common bond. There is much to be said about describing it as Desi hip-hip. Perhaps noting artists that have a good amount of wiki coverage already like, Panjabi MC? --SquatGoblin 17:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, notable phenomenon, although mainly in secondary influence (short bits in mixing of Bollywood songs) and in diaspora. --Soman 10:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.