Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoop snake

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 04:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hoop snake

There's not a single source for any of the statements in [Hoop snake]]. All are all attributed to Weasel Words like, "it is said," "several sightings have been alleged," "it has been suggested," ad nauseum. This is a good example of Wiki articles that need to be deleted because they are utterly unscholarly and seriously harm the reputation of Wikipedia. Askolnick 15:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

• AfD incomplete; fixed now. bikeable (talk) 15:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Famous legendary creature; the article describes it adequately as such, although the sentence to which Askolnick seems to object, While the hoop snake has never been accepted by the scientific community, sightings are still occasionally reported, could be cleaned up. This is a well-known part of the tall tale folk history of the American West. bikeable (talk) 15:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• strong keep while it is true that the article could use a bit of cleanup it does open with "The hoop snake is a legendary creature" so I don't think there's much room for confusion. Google does indicate it is a quite common folktale. It most certainly is an encyclopedic topic, so long as it is written and categorized properly as a legend. Pascal.Tesson 15:31, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - this is an article on folklore/cryptozoology, so absolutes are unlikely to be prevalent in the text. Notability is easily established by a quick google for the term. It needs cleaning up and some references citing. Yomangani^talk 15:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep - well-known creature from folklore. Keresaspa 16:38, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This article discusses a folkloric creature of the American West, a valid subject for an article. It does need references though. - CNichols 21:37, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - notable and verified. --Gray Porpoise 21:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• KeepExtremely well known and widely written about creature, believed mythical. In the 19th century many believed they existed. Over 14,000 Google hits. If you delete this because zoologists agree they don't exist, then delete all 185 pages of Legendary Creatures such as elves and dragons. Edison 23:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Appears to have been updated since nomination. --Infrangible 02:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep - famous piece of folklore. Ergative rlt 15:02, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above comments. RFerreira 22:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Hoop Snake [1] is an alternate name for the Farancia abacura abacura or Mud snake found in South Carolina [2]. I am originally from there and have heard the expression but the article should be Mud Snake. --67.141.33.204 04:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

No, mud snake already has an article (in which the hoop snake myth is mentioned) - this article is on a different topic: the folk tale. That's possibly a reason for adding a disambiguation link at the top, but not for moving it to mud snake. Yomangani^talk 09:21, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.