Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hibernophobe
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Redirect to Anti-Irish racism. I don't see anything worth merging at this point since none of the article is backed with reliable sources. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hibernophobe
There is no question that Irish people suffered prejudice and racism in America and elsewhere, but the term "hibernophobe" is a neologism. It gets only 70 google hits, of which only 36 are unique[1], one google scholar hit [2] and three google books hits [3]. It is unfortunate that wikipedia does not have an article that addresses prejudice against the Irish seriously. This article has almost no content which is not available in other articles such as Irish-American. GabrielF 23:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I've prodded hibernophile GabrielF 06:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete It doesn't appear to be a very commonly used word. The top hits are for Wikipedia mirrors. I couldn't find any sources to offer substantial support for the use of this word. Leebo86 02:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- expand into such an article as Gabriel proposes-"anti-Irish bias" or prejudice or sentiment or something. There is certainly a lot of source material for the UK, US and ANZAC, but for the untrained (I figured out what this was when I saw it), one could think it fear of bears or of winter, both noble and wise phobias. ;) Chris 03:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect - This article: Anti-Irishism is also in need of sourcing, but at least has a bit more going for it than this one. I'm not sure the title is an improvement, really, but perhaps if we cobble together these stubs, and then work on expansion and sourcing, one worthy article (with a better name) can result. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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- comment - While we're all here ;-) I'd appreciate it if people could weigh in a better name for the "Anti-Irishism" article, whether here in this discussion or on that talk page. The article was originally titled, "Anti-Irish sentiment", which would be an improvement. Though I'd prefer "Anti-Irish prejudice". Thoughts? ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 04:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, wikipedians have gotten in the habit of inventing terms for ethnic prejudice - see Anti-Iranianism which was just cut down from 90k to 35k after barely surviving an AfD for example. The problem with all of these -isms is that the terms don't exist outside of wikipedia and because the writer of the article is defining the terms there is a serious possibility of abuse. For example, anti-Iranianism listed as racism all sorts of actions the US and other countries had taken against Iran that were (even according to the article) motivated by political strategy and economics. The best thing to do to avoid these kinds of problems is to use the terms that scholars use. Searching Google scholar, I found over 100 citations, including a few books for either "anti-Irish racism" or anti-Irish prejudice", with significantly fewer for "anti-Irish sentiment" or "anti-Irishism". My preference would be to choose either "anti-Irish prejudice" or "anti-Irish racism". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GabrielF (talk • contribs) 14:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC).
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- "Anti-Irish racism" would actually be my preferred form, too. ~ Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 18:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Anti-Irishism per Kathryn NicDhàna, and then expand and improve said article. ---Charles 06:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect per above. The topic itself is notable enough to warrant inclusion. Chairman S. Talk Contribs 23:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Anti-Irishism per above. Black Falcon 23:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Delete 86.42.184.231 13:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.