Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grove School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grove School moved to Grove School (Madison, Connecticut)

NN, D. ComCat 00:28, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

• Keep & clean up. Encyclopedic. StarryEyes 01:21, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Clean-up as suggested above. Our Phellap 01:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, N. Christopher Parham (talk) 01:33, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep the school, and clean-up article. This seems to be a replay of what was discussed a while ago at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/ComCat. --rob 01:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, this is very informative about alternative education not only in Madison, Connecticut but in the United States as a whole. We have very few articles about this kind of school. Also per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Kappa 01:49, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. --Vsion 04:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep. Unfocused 04:29, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep needs clean up per StarryEyes.--Newyorktimescrossword 05:51, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless some evidence of notability is provided. Ever mentioned in a major media? Plane crash on the roof? Missing toddler found in basement, frightened but unharmed, clenched in the jaws of escaped zoo python? No? Then, like a random podcast or some garage band, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. - brenneman^(t)(c) 08:22, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Yeah I can see how a plane crash would make all the difference to someone looking for examples of alternative education in Connecticut. Kappa 08:58, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
    • What would they actually learn from this article (presuming that they somehow found it) that would not be better placed in Alternative education in Connecticut? - brenneman^(t)(c) 09:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
      • That is a red link so I don't see the relevance of the question. Kappa 09:24, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
        • That's my point, Kappa. Why spend so much time and energy defending these little bits of low-utility information instead of gathering them together into some coherent form? - brenneman^(t)(c) 09:40, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
          • If I weren't wasting my time being forced to vote Keep and rename (per Haeleth) on AFD all the time and having to refresh this page to keep people honest - if those people, for instance, would just accept that there is no consensus on school deletions and stop nominating them, I'm certain I'd have more time to create an article or two. Hey, perhaps those people, instead of fruitlessly voting delete and trolling for new schools to nominate could create the article they so desperatly want schools to be merged into? Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
          • With respect, you clearly are not aware of the history regarding merging of school articles. This aproach was tried and soundly trounced, as the same individuals who are voting "keep" here swarmed to vote "delete" on the multi-school merges. And please refrain from questioning the good faith of other contributors with phrases like "fruitlessly voting delete and trolling". No reason we can't be civil. - brenneman^(t)(c) 23:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
            • With respect, I am. I will not vote delete on multi-school merges. I will also not vote delete on individual schools. In fact, you will be hard-pressed to find me voting delete on anything but obvious deletes. I believe that a failure to delete an article via contested AFD for what, like 4 months now is fruitless voting, and "trolling for new schools" is trolling in the fishing sense, and not in the under-the-bridge internet sense. I apologize, however, for any misunderstanding. Hipocrite - «Talk» 12:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
            • Aye, ok, I'll accept that apology and tender my own as well over troll/troll. In the next couple of days I'll attempt to merge a few smaller school sub-stubs. We'll see what happens, ok? - brenneman^(t)(c) 13:03, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
              • I would be happy to help. I assume the intention is to take a bunch of stubs from a geographic district, create an article "High Schools in x,x,x" and then replace the individual school articles with redirects - for example, where I live now: "High Schools in Brooklyn, New York, USA?" Can I suggest that notable schools with longer articles be shortened and included in stub-format in the list, with a link from their name to their main article? Suggest a starting location! Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:10, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Special needs schools are rare and thus more notable than regular schools. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - 70+ year old alternative schools are inherently notable.  BD2412 ^talk 13:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Doomed nominations of schools are not a good use of human or server resources. 82.35.34.11 14:03, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete or merge into a more general article. At the very least, rename to "Grove School, Connecticut" or something. I thought this was going to be about the Grove School I attended for a year as a child, but it turns out it's not even in the right country. Highly specific articles under highly generic headings are not good. — Haeleth Talk 15:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and disambiguate. Oh, and write an article for every 'Grove School' in the world! Trollderella 16:03, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep — the usual reasons. — RJH 16:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is just one of anywhere between 40 - 70 notable school articles created every day. Silensor 16:36, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I love how you don't smile when you say "notable". Denni☯ 02:05, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, good article about a decent topic. Also rename to a more geographically narrowed name.Gateman1997 20:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is a pretty good article. --TantalumTelluride 21:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Nominator made no effort whatsoever to support this nomination. Bryan 00:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Having reviewed my vote, it stays the same. This is an excellent article that goes into a great deal of detail, and certainly establishes the notability of the subject. Bryan 05:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep And here we have a fairly well crafted article about a school which is notable. Thank you. Denni☯ 02:03, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per Denni. -- DS1953 ^talk 06:03, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep yet another inherently notable school. Should people of good faith continue to nominate schools?--Nicodemus75 08:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Yes. - brenneman^(t)(c) 08:30, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
    • Yes, and to suggest otherwise is both counter to generating consensus and needlessly disruptive to the VFD process.Gateman1997 17:53, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
      • Yes. Badly written and/or content-free school pages are still badly-written and/or content-free pages, and as such are not immune from the sanctions we place against any other page. Why should school articles get a free ride? Denni☯ 23:34, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep precious school. Klonimus 05:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete non-notable school Bwithh 13:59, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep more notable than more schools or better yet Create a School Wiki --JAranda | watz sup 00:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.