Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gordon dalbey

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep and Cleanup. Cbrown1023 17:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon dalbey

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The article as it stands is highly promotional for this author/speaker. A Google search suggests that he is not notable - almost all of the results are from sites selling his books, and a few are from places who have scheduled him to speak. Not a lot of outside coverage. So, it looks to me like it should probably be deleted, but it's not completely obvious. If reliable sources turn up demonstrating that he actually is a pioneer of the Christian men's movement (as claimed) or an influential speaker, that would change things. FreplySpang 10:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. if verifiable sources are added by end of this AfD it would also change my vote Alf photoman 16:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Nishkid64 04:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, at the very least the page name is not correctly capitalised. Mathmo ^Talk 04:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Wait for sources. This seems to be a potentially notable figure -- about 13,000 Ghits, books sold by Amazon, seems to be mentioned in the usual websites for the genre, like Focus on the Family. Article is clearly promotional in tone but this could be corrected. Let it sit an extra week or so on AfD and Delete if sources haven't been drummed up by then. Should capitalize the last name. --Shirahadasha 04:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

• Note I edited out most of the promotional crap this morning and moved the article to "Gordon Dalbey" with a capitalized "D". Based on g-hits he seems likely to be notable, as he is being noticed and discussed, however, documenting this may be a challenge. --Kevin Murray 15:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep & Improve Per my note above --Kevin Murray 15:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I see enough to believe that he is notable as an author. Someone with JSTOR access might check this scholarly article; he is at least mentioned therein but I can't see if it is a passing mention or a demonstration of notability. One of his books was cited as a source in this 1997 Questia article; while that is not notability to our standards, it makes me believe that he is notable to our standards. Someone with access to the 1994 editions of Christianity Today should look at the July 1, 1994 issue; he is mentioned therein, but free access doesn't reveal the extent of coverage. Someone with free access to the November 5, 1999 issue of The Dallas Morning News can check their religion briefs, but that might be just an announcement of a speaking engagement. His books are included in the libraries of seminaries; see [1] (results are sorted by distance from your address; I get Harvard's divinity school, and three others in Massachusetts as the closest ones for that particular book. All in all, I think he is a notable author. Sorting out the truly independent reviews from attempts to sell his books is more than I want to dive into, but the profusion of such sales attempts is an indicator of significance all by itself. GRBerry 06:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and revise to deal with the promotional tone. -- Strangelv

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.