Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gods of all Media

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 07:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gods of all Media

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This article is about a high school gaming club which makes no assertion of it's notability. Specifically, I cannot imagine anyone not involved or a friend of someone involved being interested in reading the article. No offense intended. I tried to create the same kind of multi-school group back when I was in high school, but it's still not encyclopedic. Habap 20:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

  • If it can be verifiably proven (through the use of reliable, third party sources) that this 2006-created gaming clan has some claim to notability (i.e. shooting to the top of the Counter-Strike tournament circuit), then they stand a chance. However, when a Googling for "Gods of all Media" returns 9 total hits, I think deletion as non-notable is appropriate at this point in time. -- saberwyn 22:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment May possibly be a recreation. Gods of All Media was deleted on 12 October 2006 by Lucky 6.9[1]. No opinion on the deletion nomination. Agent 86 23:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takao_Kisugi ) I'm saying that it is impossible to point out where a topic becomes notable. Shouldn't just having an active forum with members all across the USA as well as in Canada in addition to a large school organization that spreads across two schools be considered notable? One also couldn't predict that Bill Gates would be as famous as he is today 30 years ago. I just want the members of Wikipedia to give Gods of all Media a chance. If Gods of all Media isn't any more recognized in a year, I would be happy to personally submit the article for deletion. --User:Flashstar 00:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Wikipedia is not here to accumulate coal in the hope that they'll become diamonds. Call us when your school club is a diamond, then we'll talk. Otherwise, I might as well have an article on the basis that I'd probably become the President of the United States. Furthermore, please stop using "What about X???" arguments.' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 03:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete just another clan. JuJube 04:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep "Deletion debates can sometimes be faulty, and even if the debate was correct it can be hard to draw comparisons". If it's true that it's hard to draw comparisons. How could one compare Gods of all Media to any other club/ clan? By the way, isn't even coal listed on Wikipedia?--Flashstar 04:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I'm not really understanding your point. You do realize my use of a metaphor? ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 04:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • One man's trash is another man's treasure. Knowledge shouldn't be veiled. Isn't that one of the main goals of Wikipedia? To provide a medium through which anyone can contribute his or her ideas. Is Gods of all Media not a valid idea?--Flashstar 06:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
    • No. No. No. And no. We are here to record verifiable and notable information. We are not here for your school club or whatever ideas you deem clever to get attention on the Internet. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 09:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia shouldn't be responsible for deciding which knowledge in the world is notable and which isn't. --Flashstar 16:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
      • No. We decide what information is verifiable through the use of external sources. If the information hasn't been printed by somebody else (prefereably somebody with a fact-checking sysytem in place; like a newspaper or magazine), nobody can prove that the information in the article is correct, let alone important. -- saberwyn 21:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
      • You can just check the website to verify that it's there! How could it not be correct? As for importance, what you think is important depends on who your preferences.--Flashstar 00:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
The policy on verifiability requires that the source be a "third party":
Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.
So, unless someone else has written a book or article, or written about GOAM on their website, there is no reliable source for your information. Encyclopedias rely on the verifiability of information. --Habap 13:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep GOAM is not dependent upon the listed schools, if that's what you meant by "non-notable." GOAM is an independently functional organization that only utilizes the priviliges provided by the schools to help further publicize itself. Once they have accomplished their goals with the schools, they will no longer have any use for them and will discard all remaining business with them. You see, GOAM has a very strong will and motivation to become something much greater and renowned than simply a club or clan, I speak of it as an organization because, essentially, that is what it is. It involves people from various parts of the globe, which I'm sure is not much of a surprise as an online clan, and various people of all ages, both genders, and all ethnicities. I don't say that GOAM will "probably" become something greater, I say that it will. Because of their driving motivation and progress, I am assured, and you should be as well, that GOAM will become a larger, much more renowned organization. The only Leny 02:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Notability has nothing to do with how the group is funded or supported. Ask yourself, "Would anyone who is not involved in GOAM search Wikipedia for the information?" See the guideline Wikipedia:Notability to find out more. To quote:
A topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works from sources that are reliable and independent of the subject itself and each other. All topics must meet a minimum threshold of notability in order for an article on that topic to be included in Wikipedia. This requirement ensures that there exists enough source material to write a verifiable, encyclopedic article about the topic.
Please just point us to the multiple, non-trivial published works that discuss GOAM and we'll agree that it is notable. --Habap 13:43, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unless sourced. Addhoc 00:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Sources? Anywhere? --- RockMFR 00:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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