Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flora Klein
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2007-03-07 06:40Z
[edit] Flora Klein
Artricle is unsourced, and reads more like something out of People magazine than an encyclopedia. Unsalvagably unsuitable for Wikipedia Nardman1 02:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete for now, but not speedy; this would need a complete rewrite in any case, it has zero sources, and the last sentence, PLEASE NOTE: THE AUTHOR OF THIS PAGE IS AN OBSESSIVE MANIAC WHO IS WALKING A FINE LINE BETWEEN FAN AND STALKER. WHEN READING THIS, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT HE IS A FRIGHTENED, LONELY MAN WHO EXPRESSES LOVE FOR AN ELDERLY WOMAN HE HAS NEVER MET.... well, that makes it seem like the whole thing is patent nonsense. I'm just recommending not to speedy in the spirit of good fairth to allow the author to come up with sources and for this article to be cleaned up, because I think it can be salvaged. (|-- UlTiMuS 02:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- That last line is a vandalism edit. I've been eyeing this article for deletion for some time and instead of reverting the vandalism I decided to put it up for AfD. Nardman1 02:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Sr13 (T|C) 08:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. The mother of Gene Simmons? YGBFKM. --Dhartung | Talk 08:51, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect to Gene Simmons, I suppose. The ohmygoshallinonebreath typing is a little jarring. Utgard Loki 13:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete per nom StuartDouglas 16:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Keep If she has indeed been a primary subject of the books cited, she is notable enough to have an article, although a rewrite is needed. Edison 18:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, awful, awful prose that even if Klein is a notable subject, needs to be burned off the databases. It's an act of cruelty to allow anyone to clean that up. hateless 00:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete notability is not transfered through family. Besides, the current state of the article is not readily salvageable.-- danntm T C 01:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Being mother of a notable person is generally not notable per se. Most of the references seem to be the sort of biographical stuff that a band spawns for publicity reasons. Having a biography written by her son similarly does not make her notable. It should be deleted, but re-creation should be permitted, if its sponsors can demonstrate nobability this time, and cite independent sources to verify that. Peterkingiron 00:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yikes! I'm an 'OBSESSIVE, FRIGHTENED, LONELY MANIAC"? Anyhoo - I am a big fan of musician Gene Simmons and I also have a great interest in and respect for those who were courageous enough to survive the Holocaust and continue to love others in spite of all the evil they experienced. The fact that this woman, Flora Klein, and HER experiences so profoundly inspired her son - who went on to profoundly inspire hundreds of future rock stars is, I firmly assert, notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. If I am outvoted on this, I will respectfully back off. Thanks for your time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Originals (talk • contribs).
Sorry for forgetting to sign my comments. 'Originals' 209.78.98.26 19:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
