Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flint Falcons

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kimchi.sg 02:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flint Falcons

An article about a semi-professional American football team. Currently unsourced and may not be verifiable without research in local press (i.e. off web); zero Gnews hits for "Flint Falcons". No opinion as to whether this is sufficiently notable for inclusion as I know nothing about the status of this sort of team in the collective consciousness. Angus McLellan (Talk) 13:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• Comment A league like this may be lucky to be considered in the same breath with the Football Conference North or South in England, but that would be a stretch. --DarkAudit 14:43, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment First of all (just so it's clear) we're talking about American football not Football (soccer), but that's not the issue. I've been looking around for some sort of guidance or consensus on the issue of notability of different levels of teams. I've found lots of bickering, but no real consensus. The best I can gather is that the major (highest level) fully professional teams in any given sport and country are notable enough. There's a lot of debate on lower level teams, but I doubt that this amateur/semi-pro team would meet anyone's criteria. --Wine Guy Talk 01:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment That's why I brought up the Conference as a comparison. For the most part, no one outside the local area these teams call home even know these semi-pro teams exist. Unless it's a human-interest story, you'll never see these teams on ESPN. --DarkAudit 12:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 17:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete I can't even see why the league is notable, much less a single team from said league. -- Kicking222 23:04, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 21:54, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete One way to establish notability for a semipro or amateur team is to search for famous people who may have come in contact with the team. Did a former college star end up there? Did any alums matriculate to the NFL? The answer for both these questions is no. They don't seem to have a large fan base (most Falcons links lead to the YMCA team) and, most importantly, the team is defunct. It seems to me that in smaller leagues the more successful teams are town institutions with long histories. This team lasted less than 20 years. SliceNYC 01:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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