Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fjellstrand skole

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Redwolf24 (talk) 21:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fjellstrand skole

Norwegian, about a primary school. Has been on WP:PNT since 9 September. Physchim62 12:52, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Transfer from Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English

Probably some kind of Norwegian -- FireFox  ^{T C E} 16:04, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear. This is a school. A primary school, too, with 143 pupils - and the article was evidently written by the students. I'm not going to translate it... Sam Vimes 17:59, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

I second that. In the dustbin with it. EldKatt (Talk) 22:28, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Yet another non-notable ordinary school. Anthony Appleyard 19:34, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey, no problem. There's free Norwegian-to-English Web translation service at http://www.translation-guide.com/free_online_translators.php?from=Norwegian&to=English, I'll take care of this in a jiffy. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

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Hmmm... well, let's try the Swedish-to-English option. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

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• Delete. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep all schools. Great translation work. :-) --Nicodemus75 14:51, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I'll go along with Keep all schools in English but isn't there a Norwegian wiki for articles in Norwegian? Dlyons493 15:54, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. unless translated intelligbly from Norwegian (hot with allegory, while evocative, doesn't count). Dlyons493 14:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, if translated, delete if not. Kappa 16:14, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• I know this school. The reason you can't translate the article is because it's full of spelling errors. Punkmorten 22:59, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, I usually stay out of school nominations, but this is going too far. -- Kjkolb 05:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Whether in English or Norwegian, this still spells "non notable". I, of course, assume that this will be even more ignored than your average US or UK school. / Peter ^Isotalo 05:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. That's what I vote. Punkmorten 21:01, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, its two weeks at WP:PNT are up. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 07:25, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is not a school article (in Norwegian either). I doubt that even the Norwegian Wikipedia would want this. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:46, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Neutral on the rewritten translated version. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
• keep but please translate this over so we can read it Yuckfoo 07:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

• keep the school. It was only put in "Norway-related stubs" and "Schools in Norway" categories today, which may allow it to actually be seen by somebody who may be able to add content. --rob 15:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep this article, but the section "Content needing translation" should probably be removed by someone who knows the language, as I think the article has progressed well enough from primary sources not to need what is there. Unfocused 16:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I decided to move it to the talk page, so it could still be translated. But, really, anybody in the future wishing to improve the article, should probably just go the school's web site, or other sources. --rob 16:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Good move. I should have thought of that myself. Unfocused 17:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Looks fine now Dlyons493 Talk 20:26, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as rewritten by rob. To the closing administrator: Please make note that this article was translated on September 27, 2005 at 15:01. All votes made prior to this time were for an article written in Norwegian. Silensor 17:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, schoolcruft, whatever language it's in. We don't even have an article on Fjellstrand. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of schoolcruft. Dunc|☺ 02:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
• Comment: I wasn't the person who moved this from Fjellstrand skole to Fjellstrand Skole, but such moves are allowed *if* all references to it are also properly updated, per Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. It was moved back, and I think that issue can be left till after the AFD. The edit comment "Fjellstrand Skole moved to Fjellstrand skole: Do not move VFD nominations, it f**** them up real good" is not WP:CIVIL. As requested, I have made the stub Fjellstrand, Norway, and provided a re-direct disambig for Fjellstrand. Thank you for the suggestion. --rob 02:38, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, thanks Rob for saving this article. Christopher Parham (talk) 20:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, it is a nice stub now, and does provide some useful infor. --Vsion 08:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. -- DS1953 04:32, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as translated, but move to Fjellstrand Skole. Physchim62 06:14, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Recommend that we don't move this to Fjellstrand Skole, Norwegian convention is to leave the "skole" uncapitalized since "skole" (school) is not considered part of the name. Take a look at the yellow pages entry. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I'm a little unclear. I thought, the only reason for "skole" being in the article name and lead sentence of the article (instead of "school"), is that it was assumed to be part of the official name. Even for English schools, we only use upper-case "S" in "Example School" *if* "School" is an official part of the name. Otherwise we might say "Example school", or call the article "Example (school)". I'm a little uncertain if your talking about official school naming conventions, or Norweigan conventions for capitalizing proper names. Note: I'm asking more for future cases, and support your request to keep the article name. --rob 17:15, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
      • If "skole" is not a part of the Fjellstrand's official name, then the article should be titled "Fjellstrand (school)". If it is part of the official title, then it should be "Fjellstrand Skole". (IMHO) Silensor 17:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
        • I partly agree, and disagree. If "skole" is not part of the official name, we should use "Fjellstrand (school)". But, if "skole" is apart of the official name, and despite that, Norweigan language convention dicates it be lower-case, we should respect that, and say "Fjellstrand skole". Upper-case "Skole" should never be used, since it's not English *and* its not official. --rob 17:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.