Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fifth World Council
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 14:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fifth World Council
Non-notable. See related pages created by same user (User:IndigoGenius). JW1805 (Talk) 19:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Very Notable to DNS professionals that run alternative DNS roots, including ICANN, since the Fifth World Council does run an Intercontinental Internet. If you do not know what that is, then you are not sufficiently qualified to judge the importance of this organisation. Please see also the Cesidian Root system, which this organisation runs with the Dominion of British West Florida, another organisation not considered notable enough for very spurious reasons. Please also examine ICANN's own Alternative Roots article about the Cesidian Root. Let me also point to Indigo Genius's Official Bio page: http://ct.cyberterra.com. I'm sure there are a lot less famous/relevant people editing these pages. --IndigoGenius 20:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - NN. -- Omniplex 22:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Am I missing something here? I am trying to figure out exactly what this is about, and I keep running into terms like "fictitious" and "unrecognized". Can you give some examples of fifth world nations? How does this relate to DNS roots? Aguerriero (talk) 22:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- If you follow some of the links on the site and so on, you will find pages explaining that modern human rights laws mean that anyone can legally declare themselves emperor-king of their own nation, even if that nation comprises of one person or a handful of people. After they declare themselves king, they get to set up weirdly designed websites to proclaim their sovereignty e.g. here are some links from the 5th World portal http://5world.net/ :
- The Fifth World Council, which is more than TTF-Bucksfan, supports the Cesidian Root, the most advanced Internet on the planet (no hype). The Fifth World Council also supports other efforts of Fifth World nations. Fifthworlders also exist without any micronational connection, so you can say it is a supermicronational citizenship, in a way. The Wikipedia organisation can become a member of the Micronational Professional Registry, not the Fifth World Council (that is a little more involved), because the United States is a member, New York State, and many other states and organisations you have heard about. Are we a crank? Yes. We are a crank if you think freedom comes from above, and has nothing to do with forces within you. Thomas Jefferson would disagree with that assessment. The Cesidian Root can also run a TLD for the Wikipedia organisation, even a .wiki TLD. We cannot guarantee mega traffic yet, but you shouldn't completely discount us, or the nations/organisations/people behind the effort. Unless, of course, you want to look silly when we get that first big government contract. That should happen in July 2006. --IndigoGenius 17:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- WP is not a crystal ball. In other words, it is not about identifying entities that may become very notable at some point in the future. I'm sure there are plenty of other articles that were deleted because they were about not-notable subjects, and then later created anew when the subject achieved notability. This doesn't imply that anyone looked silly for participating in the original deletion, unless you think that WP is something other than what it is. Paddles 23:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- The Fifth World Council, which is more than TTF-Bucksfan, supports the Cesidian Root, the most advanced Internet on the planet (no hype). The Fifth World Council also supports other efforts of Fifth World nations. Fifthworlders also exist without any micronational connection, so you can say it is a supermicronational citizenship, in a way. The Wikipedia organisation can become a member of the Micronational Professional Registry, not the Fifth World Council (that is a little more involved), because the United States is a member, New York State, and many other states and organisations you have heard about. Are we a crank? Yes. We are a crank if you think freedom comes from above, and has nothing to do with forces within you. Thomas Jefferson would disagree with that assessment. The Cesidian Root can also run a TLD for the Wikipedia organisation, even a .wiki TLD. We cannot guarantee mega traffic yet, but you shouldn't completely discount us, or the nations/organisations/people behind the effort. Unless, of course, you want to look silly when we get that first big government contract. That should happen in July 2006. --IndigoGenius 17:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- If you follow some of the links on the site and so on, you will find pages explaining that modern human rights laws mean that anyone can legally declare themselves emperor-king of their own nation, even if that nation comprises of one person or a handful of people. After they declare themselves king, they get to set up weirdly designed websites to proclaim their sovereignty e.g. here are some links from the 5th World portal http://5world.net/ :
- Comment waitaminute ... you say anyone can declare themselves emperor king of their own nation ... Hmmm, shouldn't Jimmy Wales sign up? How come Wikimedia isn't a member? Yeeees, total crackpot waste of time - DELETE ElectricRay 00:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable crank site Bwithh 22:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as patent nonsense. Pavel Vozenilek 02:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and User:Bwithh. Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and others. Paddles 15:08, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete as non-notable. The JPStalk to me 21:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
